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I think that rather than just throwing out numbers, what they should do is evaluate what the actual cost of education would be and remove all the useless excess

by us 16y ago

I think that rather than just throwing out numbers, what they should do is evaluate what the actual cost of education would be and remove all the useless excess courses added to the curriculum unnecessarily. Blindly raising tuition and charging more than necessary isn't good nor is it smart to just slap a blind number like $10,000 and ignore all the economics at play. While I think the four year rule is somewhat good for commitment, I also strongly believe the education system needs a major makeover instead. Not all degrees are the same and should not all fall under the same timeline as each other. Everything should be restructured to make the best of each person's education instead.

sharadgopal 16y ago
"what the actual cost of education would be and remove all the useless excess courses added to the curriculum unnecessarily." couldn't agree more. i am currently in college, and i have to take 3 engineering electives (classes, outside of my engineering major), 2 social science electives, and i get to take 3 "any/free" electives. one could make an argument that it broadens the educational experience or whatever, but from experience, half these classes are BS, and almost all of these just suck up a lot of time, which could be better spent focusing on one's chosen field of study/ or other interests.
- kiba 16y ago
  Also, remove gyms, college team, etc.
- kurige 16y ago
  one could make an argument that it broadens the educational experience or whatever While I tend to agree with your point, the truth is that undergraduate study is not about specialization. There is a trend in that direction, but in my mind it's a bad thing, not a good thing. In a perfect world you would take comprehensive classes specific to your chosen field, but those classes would take a more holistic approach, and would draw course material from a multitude of sources.
- icegreentea 16y ago
  8 courses over 8 terms. At most you've reduced your direct tuition costs by ~15-20%. And I would argue that you're actually loosing value. If you want to do a program where you leave undergrad as a hyperspecialized specialist in one sub-field of engineering, be my guest. It'll make it easier for me when I get out looking for your jobs. It's true that there's a crap ton of bullshit courses out there. But you know what, you get to pick your electives. Pick them right, and you'll get to avoid most the bullshit. I took a macro-econ course from one of the most passionate (and hilarious) profs on our campus to supplement my eng courses. And now I have some extra understanding into what actually effects my actual job market.

by us 16y ago

sharadgopal 16y ago

"what the actual cost of education would be and remove all the useless excess courses added to the curriculum unnecessarily." couldn't agree more. i am currently in college, and i have to take 3 engineering electives (classes, outside of my engineering major), 2 social science electives, and i get to take 3 "any/free" electives. one could make an argument that it broadens the educational experience or whatever, but from experience, half these classes are BS, and almost all of these just suck up a lot of time, which could be better spent focusing on one's chosen field of study/ or other interests.

kiba 16y ago
Also, remove gyms, college team, etc.
kurige 16y ago
one could make an argument that it broadens the educational experience or whatever While I tend to agree with your point, the truth is that undergraduate study is not about specialization. There is a trend in that direction, but in my mind it's a bad thing, not a good thing. In a perfect world you would take comprehensive classes specific to your chosen field, but those classes would take a more holistic approach, and would draw course material from a multitude of sources.
icegreentea 16y ago
8 courses over 8 terms. At most you've reduced your direct tuition costs by ~15-20%. And I would argue that you're actually loosing value. If you want to do a program where you leave undergrad as a hyperspecialized specialist in one sub-field of engineering, be my guest. It'll make it easier for me when I get out looking for your jobs. It's true that there's a crap ton of bullshit courses out there. But you know what, you get to pick your electives. Pick them right, and you'll get to avoid most the bullshit. I took a macro-econ course from one of the most passionate (and hilarious) profs on our campus to supplement my eng courses. And now I have some extra understanding into what actually effects my actual job market.