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Just the GUI is what makes me nostalgic. I've never used Nextstep but something about the GUI in those screen shots just brings awe. I click the start menu on

Just the GUI is what makes me nostalgic. I've never used Nextstep but something about the GUI in those screen shots just brings awe. I click the start menu on Windows 10 and presented with a bloated view of cortana among other junk. I click the systems icon in Gnome and it's almost the same. It's as it made sense, simple and kind to the user.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
I think it is still one of Linux Desktop's largest mis-steps that GNUStep/WindowMaker was not embraced as the One True DE. Now it is basically a dead project.
- badsectoracula 7y ago
  FWIW Window Maker (which is a completely separate project from GNUstep) is still under active development, it just doesn't get frequent releases. But the trunk has a bunch of new features and bugfixes (i even contributed a couple myself :-P). Also there was a site redesign recently, if that means anything :-P. I'm not sure why the releases are so infrequent though as it has been almost three years since the last one.
- linguae 7y ago
  I also think that the lack of community interest in GNUstep was a missed opportunity. More of my thoughts on the matter can be found at http://mmcthrow-musings.blogspot.com/2019/06/some-thoughts-about-gnustep.html http://mmcthrow-musings.blogspot.com/2019/06/some-thoughts-a.... With that being said, GNUstep is still being worked on. It’s currently roughly compatible with Mac OS X Tiger’s version of Cocoa. While this is far behind macOS Catalina, I’ll be honest and say that Mac OS X Tiger with some security updates can hold its own against modern operating systems. There’s even a fork of Firefox called TenFourFox that’s available for PowerPC Macs running Tiger. What I personally believe is that GNUstep needs a suite of compelling applications in order for it to be more strongly considered. There are a lot of GTK and GNOME applications, and there is also a compelling collection of QT and KDE applications, but where is there a GNUstep web browser, office suite, image editor, photo library manager, etc.? GNUstep is less compelling in a world of GTK and QT apps. But if more GNUstep applications were written, then that may convince other developers to put in the work necessary to create a desktop distribution based around GNUstep and it’s applications. I was impressed by the now-defunct Étoilé project which attempted to revamp GNUstep in many ways. Anyway, I still think GNUstep has some potential, and there’s a window of opportunity for the project to gain more support, especially in an era of increased disappointment over Windows 10 and macOS.
reaperducer 7y ago
Just the GUI is what makes me nostalgic Same here. But not nostalgic for nostalgia's sake. Nostalgic for elegant user interface design. I wish there was something modern and current that I could choose. All of the Linux desktop environments look like either like Windows clones, or like they're just skins of each other. I would love something NeXTy. It could even be monochrome, I don't care.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

I think it is still one of Linux Desktop's largest mis-steps that GNUStep/WindowMaker was not embraced as the One True DE. Now it is basically a dead project.

badsectoracula 7y ago
FWIW Window Maker (which is a completely separate project from GNUstep) is still under active development, it just doesn't get frequent releases. But the trunk has a bunch of new features and bugfixes (i even contributed a couple myself :-P). Also there was a site redesign recently, if that means anything :-P. I'm not sure why the releases are so infrequent though as it has been almost three years since the last one.
linguae 7y ago
I also think that the lack of community interest in GNUstep was a missed opportunity. More of my thoughts on the matter can be found at http://mmcthrow-musings.blogspot.com/2019/06/some-thoughts-about-gnustep.html http://mmcthrow-musings.blogspot.com/2019/06/some-thoughts-a.... With that being said, GNUstep is still being worked on. It’s currently roughly compatible with Mac OS X Tiger’s version of Cocoa. While this is far behind macOS Catalina, I’ll be honest and say that Mac OS X Tiger with some security updates can hold its own against modern operating systems. There’s even a fork of Firefox called TenFourFox that’s available for PowerPC Macs running Tiger. What I personally believe is that GNUstep needs a suite of compelling applications in order for it to be more strongly considered. There are a lot of GTK and GNOME applications, and there is also a compelling collection of QT and KDE applications, but where is there a GNUstep web browser, office suite, image editor, photo library manager, etc.? GNUstep is less compelling in a world of GTK and QT apps. But if more GNUstep applications were written, then that may convince other developers to put in the work necessary to create a desktop distribution based around GNUstep and it’s applications. I was impressed by the now-defunct Étoilé project which attempted to revamp GNUstep in many ways. Anyway, I still think GNUstep has some potential, and there’s a window of opportunity for the project to gain more support, especially in an era of increased disappointment over Windows 10 and macOS.

reaperducer 7y ago

Just the GUI is what makes me nostalgic Same here. But not nostalgic for nostalgia's sake. Nostalgic for elegant user interface design. I wish there was something modern and current that I could choose. All of the Linux desktop environments look like either like Windows clones, or like they're just skins of each other. I would love something NeXTy. It could even be monochrome, I don't care.