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Oh, no no. You see these people are happy to be exploited. It seems like the height of arrogance to demand that they cannot be exploited. But I don't feel expl
by diffeomorphism 7y ago
Oh, no no. You see these people are happy to be exploited. It seems like the height of arrogance to demand that they cannot be exploited.
But I don't feel exploited, so nobody else can possibly be right? Surely, you don't need to ask that, since you know better already.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoHow is it "exploiting" to give personal info in exchange for saving money? As long as what's going on is transparent -- which I think is something regulations are good for -- why is it exploitative? Are those rewards systems for filling out surveys also exploitative?
- humanrebar 7y agoIt's fair to say that tracking is not obviously disclaimed as part of the sign up process. The loyalty rewards are emphasized, often exclusively.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoRight, which is why I said regulations would be helpful for that.
- alpaca128 7y ago> As long as what's going on is transparent I wouldn't consider "middle of some license agreement" to be transparent enough, and I'm sure most people aren't fully aware of what data is tracked and how it can be used.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoSure, so regulations that focus on transparency would be good. That's different from saying that trading privacy for discounts is inherently exploitative.
- diffeomorphism 7y agoAt the risk of Godwin'ing this thread: How is prostitution exploitative? You give out very personal "services" in exchange for the money you desperately need. It is perfectly transparent that you are being exploited, but it is not like you have a choice. If you think that is ridiculous hyperbole: Do you think any poor American actually has the luxury to say "No, I am happy to pay more for food."? I don't understand why you think that filling out surveys is even remotely related to covering basic needs, but if you think it is you must be very privileged.
- TulliusCicero 7y agoComparing grocery store discounts to prostitution is silly. By your reasoning, basically any kind of offer for almost anything can be construed as exploitative, because your working assumption is that a certain class of people is incapable of saying no to any kind of money or discount. Even if this is true, that's an underlying problem with the system, not with any one actor.
- zweep 7y agoWell yes, that is why there are laws for minimum wage and slumlords.
- scarejunba 7y agoThis is an /r/selfawarewolves moment. Maybe prostitution isn't exploitative and in our rush to protect people we are imprisoning them.