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I've pushed zulip in my org (~50 people, 15 devs) and no one that has tried has "gotten it". I haven't used it that much myself so I can't demo it properly but

by mnsc 7y ago

I've pushed zulip in my org (~50 people, 15 devs) and no one that has tried has "gotten it". I haven't used it that much myself so I can't demo it properly but i believe it could be "the right way" of doing internal communication for teams/dm. But maybe it's too advanced? Do you know of any official/unofficial videos that would help getting traction?

StavrosK 7y ago
Yes, Zulip has the disadvantage that the UX isn't exactly the same as every other chat program, so it takes some getting used to. The UX is great, it's just different enough that people don't grok it immediately, and that's too much for people unless you start with a core that's using it and grow the company around that (hard to do with an already established company). I'm afraid I don't know of any videos, but I tell people "Zulip is exactly like Slack, but everything is a thread, and you can zoom in and out of threads" and find that that's basically enough for them to get it. Maybe try that with a few people and see?
- rdrey 7y ago
  In our early days of Zulip-use, I had to regularly edit people's messages to force them into using a topic. A handful of people still don't get it and treat topics as special/long-lived channels, but most of us devs love it.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    You can break messages off into other topics, and we have one long-lived channel per stream, which I've found helps (you don't always want to make a new thread to post a one-off link).
rolleiflex 7y ago
We do something similar to Zulip that is (in my opinion) a little easier to use, Aether (https://aether.app https://aether.app). Its also thread based, but it’s a little more in the line of Slack and Discord in terms of design. So far as we can see it’s been a fairly easy uptake moving from there. Also helps that we have a full email coupling, so if someone in your team doesn’t like or want to use the app, everything will stream to them just as regular email threads they can respond. This is useful for older folks who prefer email, or higher up people who don’t want to deal with an app but still be able to follow what’s happening. Here’s a comparison of how that works in one image: https://i.imgur.com/wLFnIyn.png https://i.imgur.com/wLFnIyn.png If you’d like to try it I can throw in a discount code, just reach out - my email is in my profile.

by mnsc 7y ago

StavrosK 7y ago

Yes, Zulip has the disadvantage that the UX isn't exactly the same as every other chat program, so it takes some getting used to. The UX is great, it's just different enough that people don't grok it immediately, and that's too much for people unless you start with a core that's using it and grow the company around that (hard to do with an already established company). I'm afraid I don't know of any videos, but I tell people "Zulip is exactly like Slack, but everything is a thread, and you can zoom in and out of threads" and find that that's basically enough for them to get it. Maybe try that with a few people and see?

rdrey 7y ago
In our early days of Zulip-use, I had to regularly edit people's messages to force them into using a topic. A handful of people still don't get it and treat topics as special/long-lived channels, but most of us devs love it.
- StavrosK 7y ago
  You can break messages off into other topics, and we have one long-lived channel per stream, which I've found helps (you don't always want to make a new thread to post a one-off link).

rolleiflex 7y ago

We do something similar to Zulip that is (in my opinion) a little easier to use, Aether (https://aether.app https://aether.app). Its also thread based, but it’s a little more in the line of Slack and Discord in terms of design. So far as we can see it’s been a fairly easy uptake moving from there. Also helps that we have a full email coupling, so if someone in your team doesn’t like or want to use the app, everything will stream to them just as regular email threads they can respond. This is useful for older folks who prefer email, or higher up people who don’t want to deal with an app but still be able to follow what’s happening. Here’s a comparison of how that works in one image: https://i.imgur.com/wLFnIyn.png https://i.imgur.com/wLFnIyn.png If you’d like to try it I can throw in a discount code, just reach out - my email is in my profile.