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For the non-US folks like me, iCloud was a non-option from the start due to data sovereignty. I am already skating on thin ice by sharing calendars between devi

For the non-US folks like me, iCloud was a non-option from the start due to data sovereignty. I am already skating on thin ice by sharing calendars between devices using iCloud. The way Apple can best address the privacy issue while still providing easy backups is to build the iCloud backup functionality into macOS or Apple TV, with facilities to provide rsync-style backups of encrypted volumes to generic online storage services, of which Apple can be one provider. I want something like Western Digital’s “My Cloud” devices, but supporting Time Machine as first class citizen (eg using rsync) not via mounting a disk image.

GeekyBear 7y ago
The ability to make locally stored encrypted backups of your iDevice is built into MacOS. It works over your home wifi network or via a USB cable. On Windows (and older versions of MacOS), you can accomplish the same thing using iTunes.
pfranz 7y ago
In general, I think Apple's former ideology was "the computer was the hub" back when the iPod was popular. At least 10-15 years ago that's transitioned towards "the cloud is the hub" (I can imagine a bunch of reasons). The old behavior has stuck around, but not really added to and I wouldn't be surprised if it was soon dropped. I think the discontinuation of "Time Capsule" is an example of this. As another example, you can do backups via iTunes. Generally this was done when you plugged in your device. They did add syncing over wifi, but it's never been very rock solid and afaik you can't automate it since your never plugging in your device. Every time local backups get brought up people say, "but not everyone has a computer" which reenforces the focus on cloud backups.
- manicdee 7y ago
  > Every time local backups get brought up people say, "but not everyone has a computer" which reenforces the focus on cloud backups. Which is why I would like to see the focus on migrating this functionality to their non-“computer” devices. Or add a separate device specifically to add this feature. Also the iTunes/Finder backup only works locally, can’t be used when I buy a new device to configure it while in the shop.
  - pfranz 7y ago
    > Which is why I would like to see the focus on migrating this functionality to their non-“computer” devices. Or add a separate device specifically to add this feature. I think that attempt was the AirPort Time Capsule (2008-2018). I'm sure it would have added standalone iPhone backup and other functionality if there was a strong audience. > Also the iTunes/Finder backup only works locally, can’t be used when I buy a new device to configure it while in the shop. Apple has had various "p2p" solutions. For awhile it was a physical device that would effectively do a backup & restore to a new device. More recently there's a wireless way to transition your phone that you can do yourself.

GeekyBear 7y ago

The ability to make locally stored encrypted backups of your iDevice is built into MacOS. It works over your home wifi network or via a USB cable. On Windows (and older versions of MacOS), you can accomplish the same thing using iTunes.

pfranz 7y ago

In general, I think Apple's former ideology was "the computer was the hub" back when the iPod was popular. At least 10-15 years ago that's transitioned towards "the cloud is the hub" (I can imagine a bunch of reasons). The old behavior has stuck around, but not really added to and I wouldn't be surprised if it was soon dropped. I think the discontinuation of "Time Capsule" is an example of this. As another example, you can do backups via iTunes. Generally this was done when you plugged in your device. They did add syncing over wifi, but it's never been very rock solid and afaik you can't automate it since your never plugging in your device. Every time local backups get brought up people say, "but not everyone has a computer" which reenforces the focus on cloud backups.

manicdee 7y ago
> Every time local backups get brought up people say, "but not everyone has a computer" which reenforces the focus on cloud backups. Which is why I would like to see the focus on migrating this functionality to their non-“computer” devices. Or add a separate device specifically to add this feature. Also the iTunes/Finder backup only works locally, can’t be used when I buy a new device to configure it while in the shop.
- pfranz 7y ago
  > Which is why I would like to see the focus on migrating this functionality to their non-“computer” devices. Or add a separate device specifically to add this feature. I think that attempt was the AirPort Time Capsule (2008-2018). I'm sure it would have added standalone iPhone backup and other functionality if there was a strong audience. > Also the iTunes/Finder backup only works locally, can’t be used when I buy a new device to configure it while in the shop. Apple has had various "p2p" solutions. For awhile it was a physical device that would effectively do a backup & restore to a new device. More recently there's a wireless way to transition your phone that you can do yourself.