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>yet the second the sale is closed 90% of the things that the company did that made it valuable are jettisoned If it were valuable they wouldn't be jettisoned

AaronFriel 7y ago
This is taken as axiomatic by people who believe in the efficient market hypothesis, but I don't think there's much reason to believe it's true.
- etrk 7y ago
  This isn't new technology. SiBeam came out of Berkeley Wireless Research Center in the mid-2000s. They had mmWave phased arrays from the start (60 GHz is pretty much useless without a phased array, or a large dish antenna if you're outdoors), but in 15 years, they never managed to find a compelling consumer use case. I think at that point, the burden is on the company to prove its value.
- SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
  The efficient market hypothesis implies that P==NP. There's a LOT of reason to believe it's false.
  - vba 7y ago
    How so? Can you elaborate? Genuinely interested
    - novok 7y ago
      Google 'likelihood of P = NP' or 'efficient market hypothesis P = NP'
    - aesthesia 7y ago
      Well, a naive, overly strong formulation of the efficient markets hypothesis may imply that P=NP. Something like "an optimal trading strategy is a function depending on the entire market history, and in order to find an optimal trading strategy, one must check an exponentially large space of such functions." The paper is here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf. They do a sketchy reduction to an extremely stylized model of the market from the knapsack problem and 3-SAT.
    - sudosysgen 7y ago
      Here is a paper on it : https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf
    - bordercases 7y ago
      Rather than using the metaphors from one field in another field whose day-to-day has little to do with those concepts, try reading a book: https://www.amazon.com/Efficiently-Inefficient-Invests-Market-Determined-ebook/dp/B00QMV6S6G https://www.amazon.com/Efficiently-Inefficient-Invests-Marke...
- variaga 7y ago
  Even if the EMH were true, it only says "_IF_ a market is efficient, THEN all <modifier depending on the EMH version> information is included in the price." The EMH does not imply that any particular market is efficient, and if the market isn't efficient, the EMH doesn't apply. Lots of people do appear to assume the axiom "All markets are efficient", but that is plainly incorrect.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    I think there was some nobel prize winning refinement to the theory that basically said markets approach theoretical efficiency in the limit as transaction costs go to zero, and interesting deviations from efficiency happen because transaction costs are not zero. Like, the whole reason we have firms and markets in real life is because zero transaction costs don't exist globally and so it helps to have ways to reduce them here and there.
philosopher1234 7y ago
Unless gasp people can make mistakes

AaronFriel 7y ago

This is taken as axiomatic by people who believe in the efficient market hypothesis, but I don't think there's much reason to believe it's true.

etrk 7y ago
This isn't new technology. SiBeam came out of Berkeley Wireless Research Center in the mid-2000s. They had mmWave phased arrays from the start (60 GHz is pretty much useless without a phased array, or a large dish antenna if you're outdoors), but in 15 years, they never managed to find a compelling consumer use case. I think at that point, the burden is on the company to prove its value.
SAI_Peregrinus 7y ago
The efficient market hypothesis implies that P==NP. There's a LOT of reason to believe it's false.
- vba 7y ago
  How so? Can you elaborate? Genuinely interested
  - novok 7y ago
    Google 'likelihood of P = NP' or 'efficient market hypothesis P = NP'
  - aesthesia 7y ago
    Well, a naive, overly strong formulation of the efficient markets hypothesis may imply that P=NP. Something like "an optimal trading strategy is a function depending on the entire market history, and in order to find an optimal trading strategy, one must check an exponentially large space of such functions." The paper is here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf. They do a sketchy reduction to an extremely stylized model of the market from the knapsack problem and 3-SAT.
  - sudosysgen 7y ago
    Here is a paper on it : https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf
  - bordercases 7y ago
    Rather than using the metaphors from one field in another field whose day-to-day has little to do with those concepts, try reading a book: https://www.amazon.com/Efficiently-Inefficient-Invests-Market-Determined-ebook/dp/B00QMV6S6G https://www.amazon.com/Efficiently-Inefficient-Invests-Marke...
variaga 7y ago
Even if the EMH were true, it only says "_IF_ a market is efficient, THEN all <modifier depending on the EMH version> information is included in the price." The EMH does not imply that any particular market is efficient, and if the market isn't efficient, the EMH doesn't apply. Lots of people do appear to assume the axiom "All markets are efficient", but that is plainly incorrect.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  I think there was some nobel prize winning refinement to the theory that basically said markets approach theoretical efficiency in the limit as transaction costs go to zero, and interesting deviations from efficiency happen because transaction costs are not zero. Like, the whole reason we have firms and markets in real life is because zero transaction costs don't exist globally and so it helps to have ways to reduce them here and there.

philosopher1234 7y ago

Unless gasp people can make mistakes