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I've recently used the wine 5.0RC from Debian testing, and my experience is mitigated. Once the software runs in Wine, it's impressive how smooth it can be. Be

I've recently used the wine 5.0RC from Debian testing, and my experience is mitigated. Once the software runs in Wine, it's impressive how smooth it can be. Be getting there was a lot work, in my experience. Playing videos is a mess. winegstreamer relies on the system's gstreamer1.0, but, even after installing plugin-(good,ugly,bad), I couldn't make it work. wmv crashed, mpeg1 failed, mpeg4 was garbage. Various tricks are necessary: enabling devenum and quartz through winecfg, disabling winegstreamer, converting video formats, installing ffdshow through winetricks or externals codecs... The console log was hardly useful when wine crashed. For example, a fatal error in msvcrt90 was caused by a missing font, but the default log made no mention of fonts, and even the `warn+all` level of logs was not clear. Fixing this and other problems took hours, and my final result was far from perfect. `winetricks` for fonts declares font substitution in Wine's registry, though Wine's changelog mentions using fontconfig, so I did not understand how fonts are handled (it's already hard to grasp in Linux, adding a layer won't make it simpler). Overall, Wine is impressive, but, for some applications that are not documented for Wine and not packaged with PlayOnLinux, it may be hard to run them under Wine.

sammorrowdrums 7y ago
At least the Valve Proton work is helping to run a lot of games on Steam too. (Of course there is Proton tricks too... and some games do require special settings) I feel that the momentum around wine is building. Hopefully the issues you are mentioning will improve.
teh_klev 7y ago
> I've recently used the wine 5.0RC from Debian testing, and my experience is mitigated. Not sure you really meant "mitigated" here, perhaps "mixed" is what you meant?
- m-p-3 7y ago
  If the parent commenter is francophone it's possible he used the word "mitigated" because it looked similar to mitigé, which basically translate to "mixed" in English.
  - babayega2 7y ago
    Now that you are mentioning it I clearly see that as a francophone, I had not realized he/she had written something inconsistent. Thanks. In the meantime I will be upgrading wine to run Photoshop. Thanks wine team.
- sjwright 7y ago
  “Mitigated” normally only works in the positive, i.e. that something has reduced or compensated for problems. Here it appears to have been used as a negative, that something has reduced or compensated for benefits. It’s a subtle yet important distinction that will jar any native English speaker. “Diminished” would be a more suitable synonym, but “mixed” appears to match the intent of the whole post.

sammorrowdrums 7y ago

At least the Valve Proton work is helping to run a lot of games on Steam too. (Of course there is Proton tricks too... and some games do require special settings) I feel that the momentum around wine is building. Hopefully the issues you are mentioning will improve.

teh_klev 7y ago

> I've recently used the wine 5.0RC from Debian testing, and my experience is mitigated. Not sure you really meant "mitigated" here, perhaps "mixed" is what you meant?

m-p-3 7y ago
If the parent commenter is francophone it's possible he used the word "mitigated" because it looked similar to mitigé, which basically translate to "mixed" in English.
- babayega2 7y ago
  Now that you are mentioning it I clearly see that as a francophone, I had not realized he/she had written something inconsistent. Thanks. In the meantime I will be upgrading wine to run Photoshop. Thanks wine team.
sjwright 7y ago
“Mitigated” normally only works in the positive, i.e. that something has reduced or compensated for problems. Here it appears to have been used as a negative, that something has reduced or compensated for benefits. It’s a subtle yet important distinction that will jar any native English speaker. “Diminished” would be a more suitable synonym, but “mixed” appears to match the intent of the whole post.