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> Okay, for the sake of argument, let's accept your worldview where good and evil are subjective and therefore irrelevant. How did you make that giant leap? Su

by pb7 7y ago

> Okay, for the sake of argument, let's accept your worldview where good and evil are subjective and therefore irrelevant. How did you make that giant leap? Subjective doesn’t mean irrelevant, it means everyone has their own opinion on it which makes it quite relevant. Your tangent was difficult to follow on the sole basis that Google is no different than any other entity. The US government is evil because we don’t share the same goals. Vegans are evil because we don’t share the same goals. Football players are evil because we don’t share the same goals. I can go on but you should get the picture by now. At the end of the day, you should understand that businesses exist solely to make money. If they didn’t make money, they wouldn’t have investors. Without investors, most businesses would not exist. Without those businesses, we would be objectively worse off.

kerkeslager 7y ago
> How did you make that giant leap? Subjective doesn’t mean irrelevant, it means everyone has their own opinion on it which makes it quite relevant. Relevant to what? If objective and subjective ideas are both relevant, why even bother pointing out that it's subjective? Subjective ideas aren't admissable as evidence in most debates. Whether or not you intended it, when people go through the effort to say an idea is subjective, it's usually because they're trying to cut down the validity of that idea. So if that wasn't your intent, maybe you should have been more clear. > Your tangent was difficult to follow on the sole basis that Google is no different than any other entity. The US government is evil because we don’t share the same goals. Vegans are evil because we don’t share the same goals. Football players are evil because we don’t share the same goals. I can go on but you should get the picture by now. No, actually I don't get the picture. Yes, anyone can label anyone evil. > At the end of the day, you should understand that businesses exist solely to make money. If they didn’t make money, they wouldn’t have investors. Without investors, most businesses would not exist. Without those businesses, we would be objectively worse off. Actually, that's not objective, that's subjective. I don't agree that the world is better by having a huge amount of private data centralized under Google's control. (Incidentally, see how saying that's subjective sounds a whole lot like saying it's irrelevant?)

by pb7 7y ago

kerkeslager 7y ago

> How did you make that giant leap? Subjective doesn’t mean irrelevant, it means everyone has their own opinion on it which makes it quite relevant. Relevant to what? If objective and subjective ideas are both relevant, why even bother pointing out that it's subjective? Subjective ideas aren't admissable as evidence in most debates. Whether or not you intended it, when people go through the effort to say an idea is subjective, it's usually because they're trying to cut down the validity of that idea. So if that wasn't your intent, maybe you should have been more clear. > Your tangent was difficult to follow on the sole basis that Google is no different than any other entity. The US government is evil because we don’t share the same goals. Vegans are evil because we don’t share the same goals. Football players are evil because we don’t share the same goals. I can go on but you should get the picture by now. No, actually I don't get the picture. Yes, anyone can label anyone evil. > At the end of the day, you should understand that businesses exist solely to make money. If they didn’t make money, they wouldn’t have investors. Without investors, most businesses would not exist. Without those businesses, we would be objectively worse off. Actually, that's not objective, that's subjective. I don't agree that the world is better by having a huge amount of private data centralized under Google's control. (Incidentally, see how saying that's subjective sounds a whole lot like saying it's irrelevant?)