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Isn't wikipedia supposed to be user created? That's different from the "pillage and plunder" model you are promoting in your response.

by bugsy 16y ago

Natsu 16y ago
I don't understand why you feel that using public domain materials is a "pillage and plunder" model, nor why we couldn't abandon life+70 and return to the 14+14 year term endorsed by the Founding Fathers. I realize that we went to life+70 in order that the artists' children might be supported all their life. I do not understand why a fixed term of similar length applies to corporately owned works, nor why artists' children are somehow more privileged than any others. I do not pay my teacher's children all my life, though I owe my teachers far more for the ideas they passed to me. Nor do I pay the plumber's children for every flush, however grateful I might be for benefiting from their work. Even if state enforced rent may has a place, but current practice has abandoned the original purpose of promoting the progress of science and useful arts and become distorted into a form of economic protectionism where dollars are more important than innovation. But at least Sony's kids will be taken care of, right?
- bugsy 16y ago
  OK, you are not debating honestly, you are playing games.
  - Natsu 16y ago
    I'm truly worried about the progress of science and useful arts. I don't give a damn about money in and of itself. Accordingly, I release what software I can as FOSS and have put other works into the public domain. In one case, I assigned the copyright on something I wrote to a university so that they could use it in one of their classes, for free, of course. If this is all a game, I'm doing my best to play it so that everyone wins.
pyre 16y ago
Based on that assessment, all of Einstein's theories were created using the 'pillage and plunder' method since he didn't invent the mathematics and/or physics that he based his work on. Please don't try to 'smear' the public domain just because you have a twisted view of the way that IP law should work.
Alex3917 16y ago
s/"pillage and plunder"/claim our human birthright to lay the foundations of a better future and push humanity forward/

Isn't wikipedia supposed to be user created? That's different from the "pillage and plunder" model you are promoting in your response.

by bugsy 16y ago

Isn't wikipedia supposed to be user created? That's different from the "pillage and plunder" model you are promoting in your response.

Natsu 16y ago

I don't understand why you feel that using public domain materials is a "pillage and plunder" model, nor why we couldn't abandon life+70 and return to the 14+14 year term endorsed by the Founding Fathers. I realize that we went to life+70 in order that the artists' children might be supported all their life. I do not understand why a fixed term of similar length applies to corporately owned works, nor why artists' children are somehow more privileged than any others. I do not pay my teacher's children all my life, though I owe my teachers far more for the ideas they passed to me. Nor do I pay the plumber's children for every flush, however grateful I might be for benefiting from their work. Even if state enforced rent may has a place, but current practice has abandoned the original purpose of promoting the progress of science and useful arts and become distorted into a form of economic protectionism where dollars are more important than innovation. But at least Sony's kids will be taken care of, right?

bugsy 16y ago
OK, you are not debating honestly, you are playing games.
- Natsu 16y ago
  I'm truly worried about the progress of science and useful arts. I don't give a damn about money in and of itself. Accordingly, I release what software I can as FOSS and have put other works into the public domain. In one case, I assigned the copyright on something I wrote to a university so that they could use it in one of their classes, for free, of course. If this is all a game, I'm doing my best to play it so that everyone wins.

pyre 16y ago

Based on that assessment, all of Einstein's theories were created using the 'pillage and plunder' method since he didn't invent the mathematics and/or physics that he based his work on. Please don't try to 'smear' the public domain just because you have a twisted view of the way that IP law should work.

Alex3917 16y ago

s/"pillage and plunder"/claim our human birthright to lay the foundations of a better future and push humanity forward/