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Pretty much this. It's a bit of a PITA, but an easy work around. Of course then you have a local backup on a hard drive which is itself subject to seizure and

Pretty much this. It's a bit of a PITA, but an easy work around. Of course then you have a local backup on a hard drive which is itself subject to seizure and I believe even encrypted backups can be cracked.

Cyberdog 7y ago
> I believe even encrypted backups can be cracked. If anything, they're more prone to being cracked, since an attacker can load the backup onto a very fast system and run custom software which can run many permutations of keys against the backup to try to unlock it. With actual hardware, they're limited by having to manually enter the key in most cases plus any hardware or OS features which would notice that the user has entered too many incorrect passwords and lock down the device further. On the other hand, if the computer that your backup has been backed up to is itself reasonably locked down, that might be an acceptable trade-off; they can't try to crack a backup they can't access in the first place.
ghaff 7y ago
The other thing that’s a bit of a problem as I discovered is it doesn’t seem as if there’s any documented way (and I’m wary of undocumented workarounds) to have this backup anywhere but your boot drive. Especially with several OS X devices this can be a bit of a problem if you have an older undersized SSD. I was getting critically low on space and it turned out a huge amount was these backups.
- chromatin 7y ago
  Precisely my problem -- with all the household devices, we've outgrown the boot drive's ability to locally back them up. This is despite the fact that all itunes (or whatever it's called now) media is stored on a NAS and accessed through iTunes seamlessly. I suppose I could mount a network drive / nfs share at the location iTunes believes is local ...
- fma 7y ago
  There's a workaround to point the local folder to anywhere via a symbolic link (in my case, a NAS). https://reincubate.com/support/how-to/change-itunes-backup-location/ https://reincubate.com/support/how-to/change-itunes-backup-l...
  - ghaff 7y ago
    I know there are workarounds. I’d just prefer not to do something that Apple doesn’t support in this instance. I fixed the problem for now. I have some older devices I don’t care about the backups for any longer.
- GeekyBear 7y ago
  I haven't run into any trouble backing up to spinning rust. >How to move your iPhone or iPad backups to an external hard drive https://www.imore.com/how-move-your-iphone-or-ipad-backups-external-hard-drive https://www.imore.com/how-move-your-iphone-or-ipad-backups-e...

Cyberdog 7y ago

> I believe even encrypted backups can be cracked. If anything, they're more prone to being cracked, since an attacker can load the backup onto a very fast system and run custom software which can run many permutations of keys against the backup to try to unlock it. With actual hardware, they're limited by having to manually enter the key in most cases plus any hardware or OS features which would notice that the user has entered too many incorrect passwords and lock down the device further. On the other hand, if the computer that your backup has been backed up to is itself reasonably locked down, that might be an acceptable trade-off; they can't try to crack a backup they can't access in the first place.

ghaff 7y ago

The other thing that’s a bit of a problem as I discovered is it doesn’t seem as if there’s any documented way (and I’m wary of undocumented workarounds) to have this backup anywhere but your boot drive. Especially with several OS X devices this can be a bit of a problem if you have an older undersized SSD. I was getting critically low on space and it turned out a huge amount was these backups.

chromatin 7y ago
Precisely my problem -- with all the household devices, we've outgrown the boot drive's ability to locally back them up. This is despite the fact that all itunes (or whatever it's called now) media is stored on a NAS and accessed through iTunes seamlessly. I suppose I could mount a network drive / nfs share at the location iTunes believes is local ...
fma 7y ago
There's a workaround to point the local folder to anywhere via a symbolic link (in my case, a NAS). https://reincubate.com/support/how-to/change-itunes-backup-location/ https://reincubate.com/support/how-to/change-itunes-backup-l...
- ghaff 7y ago
  I know there are workarounds. I’d just prefer not to do something that Apple doesn’t support in this instance. I fixed the problem for now. I have some older devices I don’t care about the backups for any longer.
GeekyBear 7y ago
I haven't run into any trouble backing up to spinning rust. >How to move your iPhone or iPad backups to an external hard drive https://www.imore.com/how-move-your-iphone-or-ipad-backups-external-hard-drive https://www.imore.com/how-move-your-iphone-or-ipad-backups-e...