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Oof. I don’t know why he would stay in Brazil while publishing stuff that embarrassed powerful interests in Brazil. You can do that shit in Canada, in Brazil yo

Oof. I don’t know why he would stay in Brazil while publishing stuff that embarrassed powerful interests in Brazil. You can do that shit in Canada, in Brazil you’re lucky to not get a bullet.

rtkwe 7y ago
You can publish a handful of stories from abroad but continuing and actually making a larger impact is hard to do from outside the country. If you are able to it's most likely because of other people who did stay are are risking their lives by feeding you information.
AndrewBissell 7y ago
His husband is Brazilian, and his investigative journalism has probably been far more effective as a result of his physical presence in the country.
xfalcox 7y ago
He has husband and 4 kids in Brazil. Not easy to move when you have roots in a place.
- brazilianabroad 7y ago
  > Not easy to move when you have roots in a place. As a Brazilian in voluntary exile due to the violence, I'd respectfully point out that it's also not easy to move when you're dead
  - detcader 7y ago
    "Many courageous Brazilians sacrificed their liberty and even life for Brazilian democracy and against repression, and I feel an obligation to continue their noble work." - Greenwald to The Daily Beast today
- creaghpatr 7y ago
  His husband is a Brazilian politician too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miranda_(politician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miranda_(politician)
  - piadodjanho 7y ago
    David Miranda was elect as substitute to another congressman. I don't think he has the public support to be elect by himself. He only became a congressman when the other politician abdicate the position due life threats.
    - moralsupply 7y ago
      "Life threats", you mean
- freebasenic 7y ago
  According to a recent interview he did on a podcast, Useful Idiots with Matt Taibi and Katie Halper, he cannot even leave his house without armed security forces. It's a scary life that he lives.
jariel 7y ago
"l. You can do that shit in Canada" Why would it be legal or even moral to steal property in order to 'embarrass' someone? This is a very slippery slope. Stealing stuff and then hiding behind 'journalism' is problematic to the extent that there is no material, legal, whistleblowing. We have to figure out the lines that can and should be crossed, otherwise it won't be good for anyone.
- AndrewBissell 7y ago
  Your comment reads like Glenn Greenwald did this to steal and publish nude pics of Bolsonaro, as opposed to evidence of his improper collaboration with the judge who paved his way to the presidency by putting Lula in prison.
  - naiveprogrammer 7y ago
    First of all, Greenwald did not steal anything, and he is being charged because he actively engaged in covering the hackers' tracks. That is criminal in Canada, Brazil or US... I am pretty sure that had Mr Greenwald been in Canada he'd be charged by now. It is precisely why he is in Brazil. Because Brazil is a Banana Republic where the powerful and well connected can get away with most of the things unless the evidence is very clear. Greenwald has a wide net of supporters in Brazil who are very powerful, starting with the Worker's Party, the Communist Party of Brazil and so one. Not to mention his husband who is a congressman himself.
  - jariel 7y ago
    I wasn't speaking of Greenwald specifically. But the problem is in your comment 'improper collaboration'. Who decides what is 'improper' or not? I'd imagine the Republicans think almost everything Democrats do is 'improper' by some measure - can they steal and then publish information? This is very grey and needs to be cleared up or it will be a really ugly new kind of information war.
- zorked 7y ago
  He exposed evidence of criminal behavior by a judge that was trying to conceal his activities which are subject to public scrutiny via using his personal phone. What a judge does in the course of his work is not his own personal property.
coolspot 7y ago
Surprised to see this comment downvoted. Journalists (and basically anyone against those in power) are killed routinely in Brazil. It's not even a big deal in these countries. [1] [1] - https://cpj.org/americas/brazil/ https://cpj.org/americas/brazil/
- ta999999171 7y ago
  Doubt it's not a big deal - it's just not known the value of these people killed, and who is doing it, because people don't fucking read - ironically. Same in US.

Oof. I don’t know why he would stay in Brazil while publishing stuff that embarrassed powerful interests in Brazil. You can do that shit in Canada, in Brazil you’re lucky to not get a bullet.

rtkwe 7y ago

You can publish a handful of stories from abroad but continuing and actually making a larger impact is hard to do from outside the country. If you are able to it's most likely because of other people who did stay are are risking their lives by feeding you information.

AndrewBissell 7y ago

His husband is Brazilian, and his investigative journalism has probably been far more effective as a result of his physical presence in the country.

xfalcox 7y ago

He has husband and 4 kids in Brazil. Not easy to move when you have roots in a place.

brazilianabroad 7y ago
> Not easy to move when you have roots in a place. As a Brazilian in voluntary exile due to the violence, I'd respectfully point out that it's also not easy to move when you're dead
- detcader 7y ago
  "Many courageous Brazilians sacrificed their liberty and even life for Brazilian democracy and against repression, and I feel an obligation to continue their noble work." - Greenwald to The Daily Beast today
creaghpatr 7y ago
His husband is a Brazilian politician too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miranda_(politician) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miranda_(politician)
- piadodjanho 7y ago
  David Miranda was elect as substitute to another congressman. I don't think he has the public support to be elect by himself. He only became a congressman when the other politician abdicate the position due life threats.
  - moralsupply 7y ago
    "Life threats", you mean
freebasenic 7y ago
According to a recent interview he did on a podcast, Useful Idiots with Matt Taibi and Katie Halper, he cannot even leave his house without armed security forces. It's a scary life that he lives.

jariel 7y ago

"l. You can do that shit in Canada" Why would it be legal or even moral to steal property in order to 'embarrass' someone? This is a very slippery slope. Stealing stuff and then hiding behind 'journalism' is problematic to the extent that there is no material, legal, whistleblowing. We have to figure out the lines that can and should be crossed, otherwise it won't be good for anyone.

AndrewBissell 7y ago
Your comment reads like Glenn Greenwald did this to steal and publish nude pics of Bolsonaro, as opposed to evidence of his improper collaboration with the judge who paved his way to the presidency by putting Lula in prison.
- naiveprogrammer 7y ago
  First of all, Greenwald did not steal anything, and he is being charged because he actively engaged in covering the hackers' tracks. That is criminal in Canada, Brazil or US... I am pretty sure that had Mr Greenwald been in Canada he'd be charged by now. It is precisely why he is in Brazil. Because Brazil is a Banana Republic where the powerful and well connected can get away with most of the things unless the evidence is very clear. Greenwald has a wide net of supporters in Brazil who are very powerful, starting with the Worker's Party, the Communist Party of Brazil and so one. Not to mention his husband who is a congressman himself.
- jariel 7y ago
  I wasn't speaking of Greenwald specifically. But the problem is in your comment 'improper collaboration'. Who decides what is 'improper' or not? I'd imagine the Republicans think almost everything Democrats do is 'improper' by some measure - can they steal and then publish information? This is very grey and needs to be cleared up or it will be a really ugly new kind of information war.
zorked 7y ago
He exposed evidence of criminal behavior by a judge that was trying to conceal his activities which are subject to public scrutiny via using his personal phone. What a judge does in the course of his work is not his own personal property.

coolspot 7y ago

Surprised to see this comment downvoted. Journalists (and basically anyone against those in power) are killed routinely in Brazil. It's not even a big deal in these countries. [1] [1] - https://cpj.org/americas/brazil/ https://cpj.org/americas/brazil/

ta999999171 7y ago
Doubt it's not a big deal - it's just not known the value of these people killed, and who is doing it, because people don't fucking read - ironically. Same in US.