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This is what agile proponents always say. Whatever someone is suggesting, that's agile. It appears to mean nothing. Here, you're saying that the agile manifesto
by thu2111 7y ago
This is what agile proponents always say. Whatever someone is suggesting, that's agile. It appears to mean nothing. Here, you're saying that the agile manifesto literally says nothing beyond "let people make up whatever process they want", which boils down to nothing at all. If that's really the case then agile as a concept may as well not exist.
But we have story points, epics, scrums, retros etc. Agile is very much more than that.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoYou have to look at how Agile was started. Before it often projects were planned out in detail beforehand and then they tried to execute that plan without changes. As it turned out that often didn’t work. So the Agile Manifesto writers tried to explain that software is unpredictable and you have to make sure people can adapt to changes. Scrum as a base methodology isn’t too bad either but as always management prefers precise plans and a lot of Agile consultants are happy to feed that. Saying “let people make up whatever process they want” is actually quite profound because it often goes complete against what management wants.
- meheleventyone 7y agoI think people just confuse Agile the manifesto and various methodologies that claim to adhere to it. You can work in a way that meets the manifesto without any of those concepts that are tied to it through things like Scrum. Most “no true agile” posts are really “no true scrum” because the issue is firmly in process and methodology rather than underlying principles. In fact I’d say Scrum itself whilst designed to meet the principles doesn’t actually do so in practice.