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Theres a reason the Politics is becoming extreme, the largest economy is simply neglecting its citizens and simply saving a lot. Edit: not trying to troll. Man

by idclip 7y ago

Theres a reason the Politics is becoming extreme, the largest economy is simply neglecting its citizens and simply saving a lot. Edit: not trying to troll. Many are thankful, but many are worried aswell. I/we dont consider it difficult to understand. Work hard, save, dont go to wars, its a simple equation, but its not all rosey, and things arent perfect. Many claim this prosperity to be illusory, and fear a harsh crises ahead.

bilekas 7y ago
Imagine a government who could be financially prudent.. Sorry but this is not why 'Politics is becoming extreme'. The same way that not every citizen pays much attention to national debt until their on the hook for the bailout. Less drama is better. Strong and steady economy and forward planning. I would take that over : "Hey lets just spend money we don't have, we'll tax is later or inflation or screw it, worst case, another bailout." The proof is in the last financial crisis. Germany was able to buy up because they didn't spend like drunken sailors in a brothel during the, (identified by them and france) financial bubble. Funny that. I suspect the reason Politics is leaning more Fascist recently, is due to a bit of anger posts like yours that reflect nothing in reality. Funny that too.
- idclip 7y ago
  Are you here actually struggeling to find a kita place for your kid, or seeing how refugees just get dumped into ghettos ? Because if you arent ... well then. There’s honestly something very fundamentally wrong. And its very irresponsible and honestly nigh defamatory by trying to blame the larger mood on “posts such as mine”, hell im not even a conservatist, actually a moderate leftist that thinks those cries for attention ought to br heard and adressed. Posts like mine arent making the AFD the third strongest party, theyre riding the anger, rather. I will honestly not make statements about you, because im not here to inflame things, but do consider your finger pointing in this case, its unsavory, even if im off base and you know better, there’s a better way to put it.
  - bilekas 7y ago
    There is something very very wrong, absolutely, but the fiscal conservatism is not to blame. At all, if anything it facilitates long term stability(relative stability). I get so frustrated when somone with conviction says : "oh the problem is the government is throwing its citizens into incredible debt, which leads to inflation and other issues." And then say : "Oh the government is not spending enough on the needey. And its causing societal issues." I'm not here to finger point or inflame. But it's just as irresponsible to pin it all on the government looking after its nations fiscal stability.
    - idclip 7y ago
      My argument is actually that the government should develop the infrastructure, and promote more health, social and educational programs - I see how the local municipalities are over worked and understaffed ... its been years now like this! Its not the needy i mean, jordan peterson says when the middle class gets a cold, the lower class gets a pneumonia ... and the AFD is the pneumonia, in my opinion. I didn't mean to sound as i did that i want the govt. to spend on the needy, i want them to build more, very few countries have so much, yet develop so slowly. Look the netherlands ... denmark too! Not thet they dont have problems too, but i think they do more as social states. Granted, they dont have the baggage germany has. Im actually curious, what’s your take? How could things be improved? An honest question
durnygbur 7y ago
Seeing their elites enjoying themselves on the southern French coast, Italian and Spanish islands, Caribbeans, and wherever else the last thing that comes to mind is that they're "saving a lot". It's more like they decide on whose cost the "saving a lot" will happen - employed taxpayer.
- TillE 7y ago
  It's been observed that the German word for austerity - Sparpolitik - is quite a euphemism, and does a lot of work convincing people that it's a good idea to "save" money like this.
- onlyrealcuzzo 7y ago
  Yes, the income tax is close to 50% for almost everyone, and yet the capital gains tax is just as low as in the US. Less progressive. Arguably MORE favorable to the wealthy (since the rich have a more significant tax discount in the EU than the US). And yet workers there think it's more equal. I guess they have a point. It's more equal amongst laborers. Only because no laborers make a decent wage, and minimum wage is slightly better there.

by idclip 7y ago

bilekas 7y ago

Imagine a government who could be financially prudent.. Sorry but this is not why 'Politics is becoming extreme'. The same way that not every citizen pays much attention to national debt until their on the hook for the bailout. Less drama is better. Strong and steady economy and forward planning. I would take that over : "Hey lets just spend money we don't have, we'll tax is later or inflation or screw it, worst case, another bailout." The proof is in the last financial crisis. Germany was able to buy up because they didn't spend like drunken sailors in a brothel during the, (identified by them and france) financial bubble. Funny that. I suspect the reason Politics is leaning more Fascist recently, is due to a bit of anger posts like yours that reflect nothing in reality. Funny that too.

idclip 7y ago
Are you here actually struggeling to find a kita place for your kid, or seeing how refugees just get dumped into ghettos ? Because if you arent ... well then. There’s honestly something very fundamentally wrong. And its very irresponsible and honestly nigh defamatory by trying to blame the larger mood on “posts such as mine”, hell im not even a conservatist, actually a moderate leftist that thinks those cries for attention ought to br heard and adressed. Posts like mine arent making the AFD the third strongest party, theyre riding the anger, rather. I will honestly not make statements about you, because im not here to inflame things, but do consider your finger pointing in this case, its unsavory, even if im off base and you know better, there’s a better way to put it.
- bilekas 7y ago
  There is something very very wrong, absolutely, but the fiscal conservatism is not to blame. At all, if anything it facilitates long term stability(relative stability). I get so frustrated when somone with conviction says : "oh the problem is the government is throwing its citizens into incredible debt, which leads to inflation and other issues." And then say : "Oh the government is not spending enough on the needey. And its causing societal issues." I'm not here to finger point or inflame. But it's just as irresponsible to pin it all on the government looking after its nations fiscal stability.
  - idclip 7y ago
    My argument is actually that the government should develop the infrastructure, and promote more health, social and educational programs - I see how the local municipalities are over worked and understaffed ... its been years now like this! Its not the needy i mean, jordan peterson says when the middle class gets a cold, the lower class gets a pneumonia ... and the AFD is the pneumonia, in my opinion. I didn't mean to sound as i did that i want the govt. to spend on the needy, i want them to build more, very few countries have so much, yet develop so slowly. Look the netherlands ... denmark too! Not thet they dont have problems too, but i think they do more as social states. Granted, they dont have the baggage germany has. Im actually curious, what’s your take? How could things be improved? An honest question

durnygbur 7y ago

Seeing their elites enjoying themselves on the southern French coast, Italian and Spanish islands, Caribbeans, and wherever else the last thing that comes to mind is that they're "saving a lot". It's more like they decide on whose cost the "saving a lot" will happen - employed taxpayer.

TillE 7y ago
It's been observed that the German word for austerity - Sparpolitik - is quite a euphemism, and does a lot of work convincing people that it's a good idea to "save" money like this.
onlyrealcuzzo 7y ago
Yes, the income tax is close to 50% for almost everyone, and yet the capital gains tax is just as low as in the US. Less progressive. Arguably MORE favorable to the wealthy (since the rich have a more significant tax discount in the EU than the US). And yet workers there think it's more equal. I guess they have a point. It's more equal amongst laborers. Only because no laborers make a decent wage, and minimum wage is slightly better there.