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This is a HUGE problem. Well, you can choose not to use iCloud for that reason (as some of us do). A bigger problem is that Apple deliberately locks up iDevic
by Silhouette 7y ago
This is a HUGE problem.
Well, you can choose not to use iCloud for that reason (as some of us do).
A bigger problem is that Apple deliberately locks up iDevices so it's hard to get your data off them using only local means, particularly if you don't also want to buy an Apple laptop just to do it.
- scarface74 7y agoIf only iTunes existed for Windows....
- Silhouette 7y agoIf only iTunes worked reliably on Windows and didn't have a long track record of bugs, subtle usability issues causing catastrophic data loss, connection problems where it doesn't detect the device properly... Let me know when iPhones and iPads support standard plug and play protocols that work universally without relying on either Apple's proprietary and frequently broken software or someone else's commercial alternative that attempts to do what Apple should have been doing all along.
- scarface74 7y agoSo there is a standard plug and play protocol that supports everything that iTunes does? iTunes hasn’t worked well on any platform in over a decade.
- Silhouette 7y agoIs there a specialised protocol for all types of data stored on iOS devices? Probably not. But plenty of other models of phone, tablet, camera and other data-processing devices manage to communicate just fine with Windows (or Linux or macOS) using generic protocols as USB mass storage devices, there is little excuse for iOS devices not to. In fact, you actually can download your photos and videos from an iPhone to a Windows PC by just plugging it in and doing the same as you would with your camera, but ironically this only works if you haven't installed iTunes.
- scarface74 7y agoSo while it is “communicating” with iPhones. What exactly is it suppose to communicate over standard protocols that would alleviate the need for an application and still perform all of the functions of iTunes? What other devices perform all of the backup, restore, and os upgrade, functionality of iTunes. The iPhone doesn’t use the standard “usb mass storage” protocol to allow you to download pictures. It uses the picture transfer protocol.
- Silhouette 7y agoWhat other devices perform all of the backup, restore, and os upgrade, functionality of iTunes. I've never claimed anything about any other functions of iTunes. I just said it was a problem that Apple devices make it difficult to get your data off using only local transfer. The iPhone doesn’t use the standard “usb mass storage” protocol to allow you to download pictures. It uses the picture transfer protocol. Yes, exactly like your camera, as I said.
- scarface74 7y agoSo it’s difficult to get data off of your device - even though you can get pictures and video off of your device like any camera and most other documents are stored in their own folders on iCloud - that you can get to either using the iCloud Drive app for Macs or Windows or by logging into iCloud.com.
- Silhouette 7y agoHave you forgotten that the entire point of this discussion was that iCloud is not properly encrypted, which is why it is such a problem that local transfer of all data is so difficult?
- scarface74 7y agoSo now we are going back to needing some type of app to backup and encrypt since there are no “standard protocols” that can do encrypted backups and restores.....