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You ever read the reviews for the MEGA app? Everyone complains that there's no password reset feature. MEGA is fully encrypted so you literally can't reset your

You ever read the reviews for the MEGA app? Everyone complains that there's no password reset feature. MEGA is fully encrypted so you literally can't reset your password. It says this when you first crate an account and get a recovery key. I don't think the general public would understand end-to-end encrypted backups. It would probably hurt their company if all backups were totally unrecoverable.

sparker72678 7y ago
> I don't think the general public would understand end-to-end encrypted backups. I imagine you're right; it would still be nice for individuals and organizations to have the _option_ though.
- zaroth 7y ago
  You do have the option. Local device backup with a password. You can’t even turn off the backup password on an existing device for a new backup without knowing the old password (protecting against Evil Maid problem). I’ve had to reset a device when I forgot my local iPhone backup password to get it back to unencrypted backups.
  - sparker72678 7y ago
    You're right, of course. I had in mind an e2e encrypted backup on Apple's servers, which would be far more convenient than doing it locally. That's all.
    - zaroth 7y ago
      Well yeah, hence TFA; > More than two years ago, Apple told the FBI that it planned to offer users end-to-end encryption when storing their phone data on iCloud, according to one current and three former FBI officials and one current and one former Apple employee. > Under that plan, primarily designed to thwart hackers, Apple would no longer have a key to unlock the encrypted data, meaning it would not be able to turn material over to authorities in a readable form even under court order.
commoner 7y ago
Mega has an Alexa rank of 372 and over 50 million Android installs. They're a good example of how end-to-end encryption can be popular among the general public when executed properly, and they've even released the source code for their clients. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mega.nz https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mega.nz https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mega.privacy.android.app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mega.privacy.a... https://github.com/meganz https://github.com/meganz

sparker72678 7y ago

> I don't think the general public would understand end-to-end encrypted backups. I imagine you're right; it would still be nice for individuals and organizations to have the _option_ though.

zaroth 7y ago
You do have the option. Local device backup with a password. You can’t even turn off the backup password on an existing device for a new backup without knowing the old password (protecting against Evil Maid problem). I’ve had to reset a device when I forgot my local iPhone backup password to get it back to unencrypted backups.
- sparker72678 7y ago
  You're right, of course. I had in mind an e2e encrypted backup on Apple's servers, which would be far more convenient than doing it locally. That's all.
  - zaroth 7y ago
    Well yeah, hence TFA; > More than two years ago, Apple told the FBI that it planned to offer users end-to-end encryption when storing their phone data on iCloud, according to one current and three former FBI officials and one current and one former Apple employee. > Under that plan, primarily designed to thwart hackers, Apple would no longer have a key to unlock the encrypted data, meaning it would not be able to turn material over to authorities in a readable form even under court order.

commoner 7y ago

Mega has an Alexa rank of 372 and over 50 million Android installs. They're a good example of how end-to-end encryption can be popular among the general public when executed properly, and they've even released the source code for their clients. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mega.nz https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mega.nz https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mega.privacy.android.app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mega.privacy.a... https://github.com/meganz https://github.com/meganz