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Founder mentions on twitter pricing tbd though hopefully this year, considering $30/mo with a discounted annual plan. Discounts/scholarships for students, non-p

by sisk 7y ago

Founder mentions on twitter pricing tbd though hopefully this year, considering $30/mo with a discounted annual plan. Discounts/scholarships for students, non-profits, and low income. Also mentions a $10k lifetime plan with a potential “code escrow” should they cease to operate (though acknowledges not expecting to get many of those—mentions expecting 10, ever).

dexterdog 7y ago
$30/mo seems insanely expensive for a note taking app. I guess I'll stick to the local vscode on top of a notes directory that takes advantage of local access and indexing and runs on a synced folder.
- gexla 7y ago
  It's insanely expensive if you are comparing the price and functionality to existing apps. I would expect a "me too" app to have "me too" pricing. The reason people are talking about Roam is because it's not like other note taking apps. People who use the app will need to extract a break-even $30 / month worth of ROI just like you might from any other piece of equipment or tool which extends your capabilities. I find Roam compelling enough that I believe I can reach that point. If I'm not reaching that point, then I need to adjust my efforts. I feel pricing shouldn't be a sticking point. I try to keep my consumption to a bare minimum, so that my focus is on high value activities. If the tooling can't return the investment, then that activity and the related tools aren't for me. It's not that the tooling is bad, it's just that my efforts are best pointed elsewhere. I believe the founders operate on this idea and it's refreshing. Yes, it will be expensive for many. Potential users will walk based on the pricing. And I wish more developers would be willing to create something different and charge proper pricing for the effort.
  - tallanvor 7y ago
    Despite what the article claims, I really don't see much new in what Roam does over any other note taking app or wiki. --Whether they have more or less structure, they all let you link pages together, so hierarchies are generally up to you to decide if you want more or less of. I use OneNote since I already have O365 anyway. To convince me that I should pay more than 3 times what O365 costs, you'd have to be able to show amazing improvements, and Roam just doesn't.
    - gremlinsinc 7y ago
      Seems similar to Mindforger ... Mindforger I think uses ai or something to 'link' internally between docs. Just found it the other day, but it's free. so -- I'll probably stick w/ that.
  - bachmeier 7y ago
    > I believe the founders operate on this idea and it's refreshing. Many founders do, and that's why they price themselves out of the market. That's simply not how people make purchase decisions. There are many, many products out there that are "worth more" than the price. If you think you can charge $30/month for a product because your customers will get $31/month worth of value from it, you won't have many customers.
croon 7y ago
I understand people being disappointed with the numbers you quote, which I agree seem very steep, but I have no idea why they downvote you, for providing the seemingly best answer (currently) available to GPs issue.

by sisk 7y ago

dexterdog 7y ago

$30/mo seems insanely expensive for a note taking app. I guess I'll stick to the local vscode on top of a notes directory that takes advantage of local access and indexing and runs on a synced folder.

gexla 7y ago
It's insanely expensive if you are comparing the price and functionality to existing apps. I would expect a "me too" app to have "me too" pricing. The reason people are talking about Roam is because it's not like other note taking apps. People who use the app will need to extract a break-even $30 / month worth of ROI just like you might from any other piece of equipment or tool which extends your capabilities. I find Roam compelling enough that I believe I can reach that point. If I'm not reaching that point, then I need to adjust my efforts. I feel pricing shouldn't be a sticking point. I try to keep my consumption to a bare minimum, so that my focus is on high value activities. If the tooling can't return the investment, then that activity and the related tools aren't for me. It's not that the tooling is bad, it's just that my efforts are best pointed elsewhere. I believe the founders operate on this idea and it's refreshing. Yes, it will be expensive for many. Potential users will walk based on the pricing. And I wish more developers would be willing to create something different and charge proper pricing for the effort.
- tallanvor 7y ago
  Despite what the article claims, I really don't see much new in what Roam does over any other note taking app or wiki. --Whether they have more or less structure, they all let you link pages together, so hierarchies are generally up to you to decide if you want more or less of. I use OneNote since I already have O365 anyway. To convince me that I should pay more than 3 times what O365 costs, you'd have to be able to show amazing improvements, and Roam just doesn't.
  - gremlinsinc 7y ago
    Seems similar to Mindforger ... Mindforger I think uses ai or something to 'link' internally between docs. Just found it the other day, but it's free. so -- I'll probably stick w/ that.
- bachmeier 7y ago
  > I believe the founders operate on this idea and it's refreshing. Many founders do, and that's why they price themselves out of the market. That's simply not how people make purchase decisions. There are many, many products out there that are "worth more" than the price. If you think you can charge $30/month for a product because your customers will get $31/month worth of value from it, you won't have many customers.

croon 7y ago

I understand people being disappointed with the numbers you quote, which I agree seem very steep, but I have no idea why they downvote you, for providing the seemingly best answer (currently) available to GPs issue.