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That's why we should always be asking our elected officials, why continue the madness?

ardy42 7y ago
> That's why we should always be asking our elected officials, why continue the madness? Allowing one's arsenal to slowly become obsolete is akin to disarmament, and unilateral disarmament isn't wise if one values their independence. Similar weapons are being deployed by the US's military rivals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-ZF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-ZF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avangard_(hypersonic_glide_vehicle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avangard_(hypersonic_glide_veh... This particular madness will continue until all major powers come to some measure of political unity. A helpful first step would be for all of them to have elected officials.
- lvs 7y ago
  Absurd. When does it end? Or are we just caught in this dangerous resource drain ad infinitum?
  - ardy42 7y ago
    > When does it end? I already answered that: >> This particular madness will continue until all major powers come to some measure of political unity. A helpful first step would be for all of them to have elected officials. Alternatively, the US and other democracies could be destroyed and their populations either exterminated or forcefully assimilated into some kind of authoritarian world superstate.
    - lvs 7y ago
      > Alternatively, the US and other democracies could be destroyed and their populations either exterminated or forcefully assimilated into some kind of authoritarian world superstate. A false choice you attempt to make true by ensuring the cycle of escalation never ends. No US war since 1945 has been undertaken for the purpose you ascribe.
      - ardy42 7y ago
        > A false choice you attempt to make true by ensuring the cycle of escalation never ends. No US war since 1945 has been undertaken for the purpose you ascribe. You don't understand deterrence.
        lvs 7y ago
        You know what I understand? How are you inside my head? In fact, an understanding of deterrence is the basis for my critique. Deterrence is just branding for an endless cycle of escalation, investment, and global danger. It's almost as if, perhaps, you weren't alive during the Cold War and don't understand its absurdity.
  - threatofrain 7y ago
    You can also surrender independence for the greater cause of unity.
  - hoseja 7y ago
    Yes, it's called evolution. It just shifted from genes to memes like "a nation". Or, alternatively, these two happen on different timescales.

> That's why we should always be asking our elected officials, why continue the madness? Allowing one's arsenal to slowly become obsolete is akin to disarmament, and unilateral disarmament isn't wise if one values their independence. Similar weapons are being deployed by the US's military rivals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-ZF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-ZF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avangard_(hypersonic_glide_vehicle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avangard_(hypersonic_glide_veh... This particular madness will continue until all major powers come to some measure of political unity. A helpful first step would be for all of them to have elected officials.

lvs 7y ago
Absurd. When does it end? Or are we just caught in this dangerous resource drain ad infinitum?
- ardy42 7y ago
  > When does it end? I already answered that: >> This particular madness will continue until all major powers come to some measure of political unity. A helpful first step would be for all of them to have elected officials. Alternatively, the US and other democracies could be destroyed and their populations either exterminated or forcefully assimilated into some kind of authoritarian world superstate.
  - lvs 7y ago
    > Alternatively, the US and other democracies could be destroyed and their populations either exterminated or forcefully assimilated into some kind of authoritarian world superstate. A false choice you attempt to make true by ensuring the cycle of escalation never ends. No US war since 1945 has been undertaken for the purpose you ascribe.
    - ardy42 7y ago
      > A false choice you attempt to make true by ensuring the cycle of escalation never ends. No US war since 1945 has been undertaken for the purpose you ascribe. You don't understand deterrence.
      - lvs 7y ago
        You know what I understand? How are you inside my head? In fact, an understanding of deterrence is the basis for my critique. Deterrence is just branding for an endless cycle of escalation, investment, and global danger. It's almost as if, perhaps, you weren't alive during the Cold War and don't understand its absurdity.
- threatofrain 7y ago
  You can also surrender independence for the greater cause of unity.
- hoseja 7y ago
  Yes, it's called evolution. It just shifted from genes to memes like "a nation". Or, alternatively, these two happen on different timescales.