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I really don’t think this has anything to do with competition (if anything Google is competing with Amazon and Microsoft here, not Epic). The article muddies th

I really don’t think this has anything to do with competition (if anything Google is competing with Amazon and Microsoft here, not Epic). The article muddies the waters somewhat, but all the quotes are telling a story that says (not untruthfully) they’re dropping it due to its outsized maintenance burden in relation to the proportion of their clients who use it.

neandrake 7y ago
There might be some fear of competition. Google is offering healthcare solutions some of which seem to be angled at "owning" the healthcare data. I'm only vaguely familiar with Epic's offerings but a lot of these solutions that Google offers seem to encroach in that territory: https://cloud.google.com/solutions/healthcare-life-sciences/ https://cloud.google.com/solutions/healthcare-life-sciences/ https://cloud.google.com/solutions/modernize-legacy-apps/ https://cloud.google.com/solutions/modernize-legacy-apps/ https://cloud.google.com/healthcare/ https://cloud.google.com/healthcare/
- modmans2nd 7y ago
  Epic doesn’t “own” any of the EHR data in their customer’s databases. Not sure when “competition “ you refer to can be considered to come from.
  - neandrake 7y ago
    Sorry - by "own" I meant that it's in their system, a "walled garden". Any other vendor system looking to integrate has to sign business deals with Epic in addition to whatever institution is using it. I did not mean that Epic gets access to see and use that data as what seems to be a separate concern people have of Google.
- avocado4 7y ago
  Google is now building an EHR as direct competition to Epic. It's definitely related to this move. Fwiw I welcome Google's entrance to this market because Epic's EHR and business practices are equally aweful.
  - bryanrasmussen 7y ago
    Do you mean that Epic's EHR and business practices are equally awful to each other, or to Google's EHR and business practices (is Google's EHR in the state that its awfulness can be proclaimed?)
    - avocado4 7y ago
      Epic's is significantly worse than Google's.
  - kakoni 7y ago
    Google's EHR, are you referring to this youtube video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SYqcPXqNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SYqcPXqNk Because it (atleast the demo) looks like readonly-data aggregation application (that has somesort note functionality that is not directly linked to actual ehr data)
pg_is_a_butt 7y ago
I've built apps that used almost every google API available... it is a completely nightmare. Everything changes every few months, and if you don't update your software, it stops working. I swear they do it just to waste everyone's time.

neandrake 7y ago

There might be some fear of competition. Google is offering healthcare solutions some of which seem to be angled at "owning" the healthcare data. I'm only vaguely familiar with Epic's offerings but a lot of these solutions that Google offers seem to encroach in that territory: https://cloud.google.com/solutions/healthcare-life-sciences/ https://cloud.google.com/solutions/healthcare-life-sciences/ https://cloud.google.com/solutions/modernize-legacy-apps/ https://cloud.google.com/solutions/modernize-legacy-apps/ https://cloud.google.com/healthcare/ https://cloud.google.com/healthcare/

modmans2nd 7y ago
Epic doesn’t “own” any of the EHR data in their customer’s databases. Not sure when “competition “ you refer to can be considered to come from.
- neandrake 7y ago
  Sorry - by "own" I meant that it's in their system, a "walled garden". Any other vendor system looking to integrate has to sign business deals with Epic in addition to whatever institution is using it. I did not mean that Epic gets access to see and use that data as what seems to be a separate concern people have of Google.
avocado4 7y ago
Google is now building an EHR as direct competition to Epic. It's definitely related to this move. Fwiw I welcome Google's entrance to this market because Epic's EHR and business practices are equally aweful.
- bryanrasmussen 7y ago
  Do you mean that Epic's EHR and business practices are equally awful to each other, or to Google's EHR and business practices (is Google's EHR in the state that its awfulness can be proclaimed?)
  - avocado4 7y ago
    Epic's is significantly worse than Google's.
- kakoni 7y ago
  Google's EHR, are you referring to this youtube video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SYqcPXqNk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SYqcPXqNk Because it (atleast the demo) looks like readonly-data aggregation application (that has somesort note functionality that is not directly linked to actual ehr data)

pg_is_a_butt 7y ago

I've built apps that used almost every google API available... it is a completely nightmare. Everything changes every few months, and if you don't update your software, it stops working. I swear they do it just to waste everyone's time.