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Migrate Everything from Linux to BSD

16 points by rodrigo975 7y ago

davecheney 7y ago
What a breathless re-litigation of ancient history.
linuxhansl 7y ago
Uhm... I don't follow. Sounds like a lot of yada yada yada... corporations are evil... yada yada... Google is evil... yada yada... Mozilla is evil... yada yada... ChromeOS... And on and on. And it seems that when corporations take BSD and build their own distro that's cool - somehow, because BSD is "developed by open source enthusiasts", but when the same happens with Linux it is somehow hijacked. Similarly when corporations contribute to BSD that somehow leads to different results compared to contributing to Linux. Perhaps the author hasn't heard of Debian? And then the pointless detour into Mozilla's Firefox. Perhaps BSD has a magic browser that's not Firefox (or Chrome, though I am not at all a fan of Chrome)? For the record I have used both BSD (FreeBSD specifically) and Linux (many distributions over the years, currently I like Fedora). Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I do agree with some of the Author's points, actually, but that article is just sensationalist and loses a lot of weight because of that.
- smitty1e 7y ago
  > FreeBSD does not come with a pre-installed web browser. Instead, the www category of the Ports Collection contains many browsers which can be installed as a package or compiled from the Ports Collection. [1] BSD's claim to being a complete system could be strengthened. The idea of steering clear of BigBrother corporations is a good one. I take the eclectic view that the BSD and FSF ecosystems are together worth more than either separately. [1] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/d...
teilo 7y ago
So, tell me again, in practical terms, why I shouldn't install that Debian instance? What bad things are going to happen, exactly, that BSD will avoid?
m-p-3 7y ago
> systemd does provide improvements to Linux, but the main problem with systemd is that its continued development is motivated by a company's economic interests and not the Open Source community interests Is there any direct event to back this affirmation? I get that corporations have their own agenda, but is there any changes that systemd received that was directly influenced by a corporation and led to a behavior the community generally regarded as bad?
JdeBP 7y ago
The to-and-fro can be seen continued: * https://fediverse.blog/~/AllGoodThings/should-you-migrate-from-linux-to-bsd-it-depends https://fediverse.blog/~/AllGoodThings/should-you-migrate-fr... * https://unixsheikh.com/articles/why-you-should-migrate-everything-from-linux-to-bsd-part-2.html https://unixsheikh.com/articles/why-you-should-migrate-every...

16 points by rodrigo975 7y ago

What a breathless re-litigation of ancient history.

Uhm... I don't follow. Sounds like a lot of yada yada yada... corporations are evil... yada yada... Google is evil... yada yada... Mozilla is evil... yada yada... ChromeOS... And on and on. And it seems that when corporations take BSD and build their own distro that's cool - somehow, because BSD is "developed by open source enthusiasts", but when the same happens with Linux it is somehow hijacked. Similarly when corporations contribute to BSD that somehow leads to different results compared to contributing to Linux. Perhaps the author hasn't heard of Debian? And then the pointless detour into Mozilla's Firefox. Perhaps BSD has a magic browser that's not Firefox (or Chrome, though I am not at all a fan of Chrome)? For the record I have used both BSD (FreeBSD specifically) and Linux (many distributions over the years, currently I like Fedora). Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I do agree with some of the Author's points, actually, but that article is just sensationalist and loses a lot of weight because of that.

smitty1e 7y ago
> FreeBSD does not come with a pre-installed web browser. Instead, the www category of the Ports Collection contains many browsers which can be installed as a package or compiled from the Ports Collection. [1] BSD's claim to being a complete system could be strengthened. The idea of steering clear of BigBrother corporations is a good one. I take the eclectic view that the BSD and FSF ecosystems are together worth more than either separately. [1] https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/d...

teilo 7y ago

So, tell me again, in practical terms, why I shouldn't install that Debian instance? What bad things are going to happen, exactly, that BSD will avoid?

m-p-3 7y ago

> systemd does provide improvements to Linux, but the main problem with systemd is that its continued development is motivated by a company's economic interests and not the Open Source community interests Is there any direct event to back this affirmation? I get that corporations have their own agenda, but is there any changes that systemd received that was directly influenced by a corporation and led to a behavior the community generally regarded as bad?

JdeBP 7y ago

The to-and-fro can be seen continued: * https://fediverse.blog/~/AllGoodThings/should-you-migrate-from-linux-to-bsd-it-depends https://fediverse.blog/~/AllGoodThings/should-you-migrate-fr... * https://unixsheikh.com/articles/why-you-should-migrate-everything-from-linux-to-bsd-part-2.html https://unixsheikh.com/articles/why-you-should-migrate-every...