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No, you end up with everyone living to 150, and having longer, healthier lifespans in general.

by magduf 7y ago

rusk 7y ago
Yeah right. What on earth would motivate them to prolong everybody’s life? I admire your optimism to be sure, but I don’t share it unfortunately. But even if your hoped for outcome did come to pass what happens wrt world population? Old Age is probably one of the last things saving us from dying surrounded by our own waste ...
- sixstringtheory 7y ago
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- magduf 7y ago
  >Yeah right. What on earth would motivate them to prolong everybody’s life? 1) Profit 2) What makes you think they can keep it secret? >But even if your hoped for outcome did come to pass what happens wrt world population? In case you haven't noticed, people in developed countries aren't having kids any more. The population will stabilize: people who can afford anti-senescence therapy will live a very long time, but have very few (if any kids). People who have a lot of kids won't be able to afford any therapy and will die young, but eventually their offspring will become wealthier and will stop reproducing so much.
  - rusk 7y ago
    (1) is precisely my concern. Death is the last great leveller. What happens when the rich become exempt? I think then they become gods ... on no basis then other than their ability to hoard coins. I’m familiar with your reasoning on population dynamics, and while it does provide a nice straw to grasp at, I kind of feel its irrelevant unless you address rampant inequality? What happens when one segment gets immortality and a far larger population gets nothing? History is littered with the scattered remains of socieities who tgought theyd have it all for themselves. Have a look into the genesis of Gengis Khan maybe, or more recently Cambodia ...
    - magduf 7y ago
      >(1) is precisely my concern. Death is the last great leveller. What happens when the rich become exempt? I think then they become gods ... on no basis then other than their ability to hoard coins. What exactly is the problem here? If you don't want them becoming gods, then it's very simple: pass some laws forcing wealth redistribution. Rich people aren't gods, and don't have super-powers. They are as easily stopped or killed as any other human. And they're just as subject to laws as the rest of us, in a country that has rule-of-law. So it's very simple: pass a law. If your country refuses to do that and lets the rich become god-like, that's because the people in your country want it that way. >What happens when one segment gets immortality and a far larger population gets nothing? What happens when one segment of the population gets advanced computing equipment, like smartphones, and a far larger population gets nothing? How are things working out right now, where only a very, very small portion of our population has smartphones and personal computers, while most of our population has landlines at best, or has to write letters and mail them, and has to do all their work with pencil and paper? Oh wait, it isn't like that at all: even poor people have smartphones and computers. Why do you think that immortality will be some highly limited thing?

No, you end up with everyone living to 150, and having longer, healthier lifespans in general.

by magduf 7y ago

No, you end up with everyone living to 150, and having longer, healthier lifespans in general.

rusk 7y ago

Yeah right. What on earth would motivate them to prolong everybody’s life? I admire your optimism to be sure, but I don’t share it unfortunately. But even if your hoped for outcome did come to pass what happens wrt world population? Old Age is probably one of the last things saving us from dying surrounded by our own waste ...

sixstringtheory 7y ago
Welcome to Amazon Prime Assisted Suicide! Now with 2-hour delivery for only 5.99 and the latest counterfeit cocktails... reviewers are gushing about them! Or you could read someone who’s a better writer than I and check out Vonnegut’s 2BR02B.
magduf 7y ago
>Yeah right. What on earth would motivate them to prolong everybody’s life? 1) Profit 2) What makes you think they can keep it secret? >But even if your hoped for outcome did come to pass what happens wrt world population? In case you haven't noticed, people in developed countries aren't having kids any more. The population will stabilize: people who can afford anti-senescence therapy will live a very long time, but have very few (if any kids). People who have a lot of kids won't be able to afford any therapy and will die young, but eventually their offspring will become wealthier and will stop reproducing so much.
- rusk 7y ago
  (1) is precisely my concern. Death is the last great leveller. What happens when the rich become exempt? I think then they become gods ... on no basis then other than their ability to hoard coins. I’m familiar with your reasoning on population dynamics, and while it does provide a nice straw to grasp at, I kind of feel its irrelevant unless you address rampant inequality? What happens when one segment gets immortality and a far larger population gets nothing? History is littered with the scattered remains of socieities who tgought theyd have it all for themselves. Have a look into the genesis of Gengis Khan maybe, or more recently Cambodia ...
  - magduf 7y ago
    >(1) is precisely my concern. Death is the last great leveller. What happens when the rich become exempt? I think then they become gods ... on no basis then other than their ability to hoard coins. What exactly is the problem here? If you don't want them becoming gods, then it's very simple: pass some laws forcing wealth redistribution. Rich people aren't gods, and don't have super-powers. They are as easily stopped or killed as any other human. And they're just as subject to laws as the rest of us, in a country that has rule-of-law. So it's very simple: pass a law. If your country refuses to do that and lets the rich become god-like, that's because the people in your country want it that way. >What happens when one segment gets immortality and a far larger population gets nothing? What happens when one segment of the population gets advanced computing equipment, like smartphones, and a far larger population gets nothing? How are things working out right now, where only a very, very small portion of our population has smartphones and personal computers, while most of our population has landlines at best, or has to write letters and mail them, and has to do all their work with pencil and paper? Oh wait, it isn't like that at all: even poor people have smartphones and computers. Why do you think that immortality will be some highly limited thing?