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Along with the coins, the burnisher is filled with water, bird shot to knock the dirt off, and a healthy pour of 20 Mule Team Borax soap Isn't bird shot typica

Along with the coins, the burnisher is filled with water, bird shot to knock the dirt off, and a healthy pour of 20 Mule Team Borax soap Isn't bird shot typically made from lead? Are they coating the coins with lead?

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ISL 7y ago
It can also be steel, which is apt to work better in this context. Lead shot might actually mark up the coins.
mikeyouse 7y ago
In California, lead shot was a contributor to the near extinction of the California Condor so it’s effectively banned for hunting purposes. You can basically just find steel now. https://www.kqed.org/science/1944241/lead-ammunition-is-now-banned-for-hunting-wildlife-in-california https://www.kqed.org/science/1944241/lead-ammunition-is-now-...
- Johnny555 7y ago
  It may be banned in certain areas but lead shot is still sold: https://www.cabelas.com/category/104567580.uts?CQ_view=list&CQ_ztype=GNU&CQ_ref=~type-Lead https://www.cabelas.com/category/104567580.uts?CQ_view=list&... https://www.amazon.com/Magnum-Lead-Shot-2-25-Pound/dp/B001QV1A0Q https://www.amazon.com/Magnum-Lead-Shot-2-25-Pound/dp/B001QV... And some bans have been reversed: New U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke on Thursday issued an order overturning an Obama administration ban on the controversial use of lead ammunition and fishing tackle used on federal lands and waters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-zinke/new-interior-head-lifts-lead-ammunition-ban-in-nod-to-hunters-idUSKBN16930Z https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-zinke/new-in... But even if there were a ban, since this hotel has been doing this since the 1930's, they could still have a few hundred pound bags of real lead shot in the basement that they're using for this.
  - owlninja 7y ago
    Lead is still used for dove and clay shooting. I think in most places the steel restrictions only applies to waterfowl (may even be federal).
    - close04 7y ago
      The point is to keep lead out of the carcasses many other animals eat as direct ingestion would cause the second most harm (first being to have it delivered straight from the barrel). Lead shot that falls to the ground when clay shooting is potentially dangerous but far less than when ingested.
  - Rebelgecko 7y ago
    I'm guessing most ammo being used isn't for hunting, it's for target shooting. Lead ammo is still legal for that (and ranges can make some decent money by sifting through their berms and recycling the lead). Kind of a moot point, but I don't think Cabela's has any locations in California, and they stopped shipping here after Prop 63
    - Alupis 7y ago
      > but I don't think Cabela's has any locations in California No, but Bass Pro Shop is all over, and bought Cabela's a few years back.
newnewpdro 7y ago
They're probably using "bird shot" colloquially to describe what's really just a steel abrasive consisting of small metal balls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_abrasives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_abrasives
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sparrish 7y ago
"Bird shot" is the size of the steal abrasive. Ridiculous to think they open up shotgun shells and pour in the projectiles.
- dmurray 7y ago
  You can buy it by the barrel. Good chance they did use real shot at some point.
  - nwallin 7y ago
    I actually doubt that. Lead is a shitty abrasive.

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ISL 7y ago

It can also be steel, which is apt to work better in this context. Lead shot might actually mark up the coins.

mikeyouse 7y ago

In California, lead shot was a contributor to the near extinction of the California Condor so it’s effectively banned for hunting purposes. You can basically just find steel now. https://www.kqed.org/science/1944241/lead-ammunition-is-now-banned-for-hunting-wildlife-in-california https://www.kqed.org/science/1944241/lead-ammunition-is-now-...

Johnny555 7y ago
It may be banned in certain areas but lead shot is still sold: https://www.cabelas.com/category/104567580.uts?CQ_view=list&CQ_ztype=GNU&CQ_ref=~type-Lead https://www.cabelas.com/category/104567580.uts?CQ_view=list&... https://www.amazon.com/Magnum-Lead-Shot-2-25-Pound/dp/B001QV1A0Q https://www.amazon.com/Magnum-Lead-Shot-2-25-Pound/dp/B001QV... And some bans have been reversed: New U.S. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke on Thursday issued an order overturning an Obama administration ban on the controversial use of lead ammunition and fishing tackle used on federal lands and waters https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-zinke/new-interior-head-lifts-lead-ammunition-ban-in-nod-to-hunters-idUSKBN16930Z https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-interior-zinke/new-in... But even if there were a ban, since this hotel has been doing this since the 1930's, they could still have a few hundred pound bags of real lead shot in the basement that they're using for this.
- owlninja 7y ago
  Lead is still used for dove and clay shooting. I think in most places the steel restrictions only applies to waterfowl (may even be federal).
  - close04 7y ago
    The point is to keep lead out of the carcasses many other animals eat as direct ingestion would cause the second most harm (first being to have it delivered straight from the barrel). Lead shot that falls to the ground when clay shooting is potentially dangerous but far less than when ingested.
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  I'm guessing most ammo being used isn't for hunting, it's for target shooting. Lead ammo is still legal for that (and ranges can make some decent money by sifting through their berms and recycling the lead). Kind of a moot point, but I don't think Cabela's has any locations in California, and they stopped shipping here after Prop 63
  - Alupis 7y ago
    > but I don't think Cabela's has any locations in California No, but Bass Pro Shop is all over, and bought Cabela's a few years back.

newnewpdro 7y ago

They're probably using "bird shot" colloquially to describe what's really just a steel abrasive consisting of small metal balls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_abrasives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_abrasives

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sparrish 7y ago

"Bird shot" is the size of the steal abrasive. Ridiculous to think they open up shotgun shells and pour in the projectiles.

dmurray 7y ago
You can buy it by the barrel. Good chance they did use real shot at some point.
- nwallin 7y ago
  I actually doubt that. Lead is a shitty abrasive.