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...and work in the Bay Area.

halbritt 7y ago
This helps. The cost of living keeps a lot of people out and there's a lot of competition for the folks that are here. In smaller markets the same supply and demand exists, but there are far fewer options and possibly less willingness on the part of employers to compete for new hires. A tech business in a smaller market might be growth constrained by a lack of talent and that may be fine. Tech employers in the bay area are generally under a lot of pressure to grow.
swebs 7y ago
NYC pays a bit less, but you can live wayyyyyy cheaper. Decent apartments just outside of Manhattan can be found for under $1k per month.
- maps7 7y ago
  "...and work in the " + USA What is the commute like in NYC?
  - mancerayder 7y ago
    Centralized. Jobs are found either in midtown or downtown, and subway lines feed into both. Your commute will be dependent on how much you spend to be near work, but even a non expensive area (like eastern Bed Stuy or Crown Heights) doesn't have a commute more than 40-45m. You can also be lucky enough to be able to walk to work if you don't mind living in Manhattan, and spending more for a nearby neighborhood.
  - christiansakai 7y ago
    The MTA. It is not perfect but it is good enough. I say this as someone who experienced Singapore and Japan's subway system. My commute time is 30 - 45 mins and I pay $1100 for my room outside of Manhattan.
- mancerayder 7y ago
  That's pretty deeply incorrect, I'm sorry. I think you mean you can rent a room in an apartment with roommates for 1K a month, which is the going rate unless you're in a luxury area.
  - swebs 7y ago
    https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/new-york-ny/under-1000?property-categories=apartment&box=-74.25556,40.49608,-73.70061,40.91541 https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/new-york-ny/under-1000?...
    - mancerayder 7y ago
      Still nope. Several of the Brooklyn listings are scams: top link is a 4 BR for 900 in Bushwick, which speaks for itself. The others are NOT near Manhattan (these NJ spots like Newark, Montclair, even Bayonne are not considered close because of very long commute times). Gravesend is not anywhere near Manhattan. The list goes on, I just addressed page one. Streeteasy has more realistic listings.
lozaning 7y ago
Only for as long as it takes you to build your personal network and resume so that you can demand the same pay elsewhere. Anchor your salary as high as possible as quickly as possible to establish what you're worth and then move. Bay area tech beaucoup bucks in flyover country is a recipe for early retirement.
- mettamage 7y ago
  > Only for as long as it takes you to build your personal network and resume so that you can demand the same pay elsewhere. Anchor your salary as high as possible as quickly as possible to establish what you're worth and then move. How would I justify a Bay area salary to Dutch companies? Also, visa sponsoring is hard. Triplebyte and the like never considered me.
- thecolorblue 7y ago
  > Bay area tech beaucoup bucks in flyover country is a recipe for early retirement. Does anyone get paid bay area rates in other areas? I have never heard of this. I work remotely for a bay area company and get paid based on local rates.
  - wasdfff 7y ago
    Seriously. Good luck arguing for 400k total comp in Kansas or wherever when there are local engineers perhaps even senior to you who’ve been happily working for upper 5 figures all their career.

This helps. The cost of living keeps a lot of people out and there's a lot of competition for the folks that are here. In smaller markets the same supply and demand exists, but there are far fewer options and possibly less willingness on the part of employers to compete for new hires. A tech business in a smaller market might be growth constrained by a lack of talent and that may be fine. Tech employers in the bay area are generally under a lot of pressure to grow.

swebs 7y ago

NYC pays a bit less, but you can live wayyyyyy cheaper. Decent apartments just outside of Manhattan can be found for under $1k per month.

maps7 7y ago
"...and work in the " + USA What is the commute like in NYC?
- mancerayder 7y ago
  Centralized. Jobs are found either in midtown or downtown, and subway lines feed into both. Your commute will be dependent on how much you spend to be near work, but even a non expensive area (like eastern Bed Stuy or Crown Heights) doesn't have a commute more than 40-45m. You can also be lucky enough to be able to walk to work if you don't mind living in Manhattan, and spending more for a nearby neighborhood.
- christiansakai 7y ago
  The MTA. It is not perfect but it is good enough. I say this as someone who experienced Singapore and Japan's subway system. My commute time is 30 - 45 mins and I pay $1100 for my room outside of Manhattan.
mancerayder 7y ago
That's pretty deeply incorrect, I'm sorry. I think you mean you can rent a room in an apartment with roommates for 1K a month, which is the going rate unless you're in a luxury area.
- swebs 7y ago
  https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/new-york-ny/under-1000?property-categories=apartment&box=-74.25556,40.49608,-73.70061,40.91541 https://www.padmapper.com/apartments/new-york-ny/under-1000?...
  - mancerayder 7y ago
    Still nope. Several of the Brooklyn listings are scams: top link is a 4 BR for 900 in Bushwick, which speaks for itself. The others are NOT near Manhattan (these NJ spots like Newark, Montclair, even Bayonne are not considered close because of very long commute times). Gravesend is not anywhere near Manhattan. The list goes on, I just addressed page one. Streeteasy has more realistic listings.

lozaning 7y ago

Only for as long as it takes you to build your personal network and resume so that you can demand the same pay elsewhere. Anchor your salary as high as possible as quickly as possible to establish what you're worth and then move. Bay area tech beaucoup bucks in flyover country is a recipe for early retirement.

mettamage 7y ago
> Only for as long as it takes you to build your personal network and resume so that you can demand the same pay elsewhere. Anchor your salary as high as possible as quickly as possible to establish what you're worth and then move. How would I justify a Bay area salary to Dutch companies? Also, visa sponsoring is hard. Triplebyte and the like never considered me.
thecolorblue 7y ago
> Bay area tech beaucoup bucks in flyover country is a recipe for early retirement. Does anyone get paid bay area rates in other areas? I have never heard of this. I work remotely for a bay area company and get paid based on local rates.
- wasdfff 7y ago
  Seriously. Good luck arguing for 400k total comp in Kansas or wherever when there are local engineers perhaps even senior to you who’ve been happily working for upper 5 figures all their career.