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>Meanwhile fast food is cheap That's just not true. It's cheap to you. It's actually terribly expensive compared to a bag of rice and potatoes, which you can

>Meanwhile fast food is cheap That's just not true. It's cheap to you. It's actually terribly expensive compared to a bag of rice and potatoes, which you can buy in bulk and cook easily with a hot plate and a pot. This is a problem elites constantly have. They keep projecting their mindset onto everyone else. >In many areas poor people don't actually have much choice. They don't have a Whole Foods a mile away, so they can't get a bag of rice? Everyone is a victim these days. Oh, wait... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO0COAI https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO0COAI https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007S9ULGY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007S9ULGY Free shipping anywhere in the US. If you keep telling people they're a victim soon they'll agree.

slumdev 7y ago
I wouldn't buy food from Amazon until they get a handle on their counterfeit problem. It's gutter-oil-at-scale waiting to happen.
- IanDrake 7y ago
  >I wouldn't buy food from Amazon Again, YOU wouldn't. You're projecting. The argument is that a poor person (in the US) can't buy unprocessed food because they don't have a grocery store nearby.
  - slumdev 7y ago
    I don't think that argument fails, generally. The availability of rice, beans, and potatoes in bulk quantities on Amazon still does not make them accessible to the poor. The poor are frequently unbanked, and prepaid card schemes with predatory fees are not an improvement. They also are more likely to live in neighborhoods where packages are stolen. Apart from that, if people eat nothing but the foods that can be stored unrefrigerated for long periods, they're going to end up with health problems, even some of the same ones caused by processed foods.
chimprich 7y ago
> It's actually terribly expensive compared to a bag of rice and potatoes What about the time cost? To make food from fresh, you need significantly more time to prepare and cook the ingredients. You also need more frequent shopping trips to ensure fresh food is ready for cooking. If you're working long hours or working shifts, or are living on your own, this becomes significant. Also of course rice and potatoes on their own are not very nutritious. Brown rice is better than white rice, but that takes longer to prepare again. Preparing a meal from fresh also takes more willpower and energy than selecting more immediately available calories. I'm pretty sure that's a lot easier after coming home from an office job rather than a 12-hour factory shift.
- frank2 7y ago
  >Brown rice is better than white rice The cultures that have for thousands of years depended on rice for most of their calories have used mainly white rice.
  - chimprich 7y ago
    I don't think that's true. White rice is processed brown rice. Brown rice surely has a much longer history.
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- IanDrake 7y ago
  I've cooked a week's worth of rice in about 30 minutes and you can cook a potato in the microwave in 5 minutes. Again, we're right back to where we started with elitist mentality. You think poor people care about brown rice VS. white rice? What next, are you going to say, "yeah, but organic, free range, free trade, hand picked, carbon neutral rice costs 5x more, and what, no salad?". No one cares but you. What I see here is a bunch of rich people projecting their difficulty making a simple meal on to poor people.
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slumdev 7y ago

I wouldn't buy food from Amazon until they get a handle on their counterfeit problem. It's gutter-oil-at-scale waiting to happen.

IanDrake 7y ago
>I wouldn't buy food from Amazon Again, YOU wouldn't. You're projecting. The argument is that a poor person (in the US) can't buy unprocessed food because they don't have a grocery store nearby.
- slumdev 7y ago
  I don't think that argument fails, generally. The availability of rice, beans, and potatoes in bulk quantities on Amazon still does not make them accessible to the poor. The poor are frequently unbanked, and prepaid card schemes with predatory fees are not an improvement. They also are more likely to live in neighborhoods where packages are stolen. Apart from that, if people eat nothing but the foods that can be stored unrefrigerated for long periods, they're going to end up with health problems, even some of the same ones caused by processed foods.

chimprich 7y ago

> It's actually terribly expensive compared to a bag of rice and potatoes What about the time cost? To make food from fresh, you need significantly more time to prepare and cook the ingredients. You also need more frequent shopping trips to ensure fresh food is ready for cooking. If you're working long hours or working shifts, or are living on your own, this becomes significant. Also of course rice and potatoes on their own are not very nutritious. Brown rice is better than white rice, but that takes longer to prepare again. Preparing a meal from fresh also takes more willpower and energy than selecting more immediately available calories. I'm pretty sure that's a lot easier after coming home from an office job rather than a 12-hour factory shift.

frank2 7y ago
>Brown rice is better than white rice The cultures that have for thousands of years depended on rice for most of their calories have used mainly white rice.
- chimprich 7y ago
  I don't think that's true. White rice is processed brown rice. Brown rice surely has a much longer history.
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IanDrake 7y ago
I've cooked a week's worth of rice in about 30 minutes and you can cook a potato in the microwave in 5 minutes. Again, we're right back to where we started with elitist mentality. You think poor people care about brown rice VS. white rice? What next, are you going to say, "yeah, but organic, free range, free trade, hand picked, carbon neutral rice costs 5x more, and what, no salad?". No one cares but you. What I see here is a bunch of rich people projecting their difficulty making a simple meal on to poor people.
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