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Isn't the entire point of a community to have rules on how to behave inside or else we are kicked out? There are stories we tell the chilodren where some peopl

Isn't the entire point of a community to have rules on how to behave inside or else we are kicked out? There are stories we tell the chilodren where some people form a new community without rules because they hate rules and then one guy is a jerk and eventually they have to re-invent the rules one by one.

r_c_a_d 7y ago
Are you thinking of this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies
- simion314 7y ago
  It was some short story but maybe it was inspired from this book, what I remember it was that the first thing that happened was that someone started a fire and let it unsupervised and everything burned to the ground, so they had to create the first rule about not playing with fire and where/how fire is allowed.
uncle_j 7y ago
> Isn't the entire point of a community to have rules on how to behave inside or else we are kicked out? We are typically talking about nations and states (which aren't necessarily the same thing). You are born into it and typically normally stay within it for the majority of your life. Community is one of those words that are commonly abused these days to the point it doesn't really mean anything.
- simion314 7y ago
  I was thinking at historical communities like tribes not at internet communities.
WaitWaitWha 7y ago
except when you already have people in the community who often have vested much of their life in said community. Then, the rules change and they are suddenly outcast and separated from their life's work.
- simion314 7y ago
  Are you referring to the internet communities drama with the COCs and the cancel culture? My comment was referring to real human communities, as an example in my village was introduced a garbage tax and some people were upset)including some in my family) because they did not want to pay for disposing teh garbage, the ones that burned was put to fire and the other kind was abandoned or thrown in the local river. In this case you see that sometimes new rules do not make all people happy. In case you will object because of the financial issue then there is a similar example but a few hundreds years back where a law was passed that you can shit everywhere you want and you must have a hygienic place or other law was pased and children were "forced" into schools instead of working the farms.

r_c_a_d 7y ago

Are you thinking of this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies

simion314 7y ago
It was some short story but maybe it was inspired from this book, what I remember it was that the first thing that happened was that someone started a fire and let it unsupervised and everything burned to the ground, so they had to create the first rule about not playing with fire and where/how fire is allowed.

uncle_j 7y ago

> Isn't the entire point of a community to have rules on how to behave inside or else we are kicked out? We are typically talking about nations and states (which aren't necessarily the same thing). You are born into it and typically normally stay within it for the majority of your life. Community is one of those words that are commonly abused these days to the point it doesn't really mean anything.

simion314 7y ago
I was thinking at historical communities like tribes not at internet communities.

WaitWaitWha 7y ago

except when you already have people in the community who often have vested much of their life in said community. Then, the rules change and they are suddenly outcast and separated from their life's work.

simion314 7y ago
Are you referring to the internet communities drama with the COCs and the cancel culture? My comment was referring to real human communities, as an example in my village was introduced a garbage tax and some people were upset)including some in my family) because they did not want to pay for disposing teh garbage, the ones that burned was put to fire and the other kind was abandoned or thrown in the local river. In this case you see that sometimes new rules do not make all people happy. In case you will object because of the financial issue then there is a similar example but a few hundreds years back where a law was passed that you can shit everywhere you want and you must have a hygienic place or other law was pased and children were "forced" into schools instead of working the farms.