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A company can choose to ban you from their service for this. Uber eats, probably not an issue. But imagine the inconvenience of not having Uber for the rest of

A company can choose to ban you from their service for this. Uber eats, probably not an issue. But imagine the inconvenience of not having Uber for the rest of your life. Or worse, Airbnb which doesn’t even have a close competitor. I would begrudgingly take the loss to continue having access to their marketplaces. These companies have notoriously terrible customer service and they don’t really have any reason to fix it.

wolco 7y ago
Just use a different card. There are services for the banned. Besides get use to the horror of not ever using Uber when they close up shop or raise prices which is coming soon and would have come sooner if they could bankrupt lyft.
- Maxious 7y ago
  Uber certainly are more sophisticated in banning than just matching card numbers, their techniques have already been battle tested in outsmarting regulators where Uber was operating outside of local laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyball https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyball
tasogare 7y ago
> imagine the inconvenience of not having Uber for the rest of your life Imagine thinking you need Uber to live your life...
- imroot 7y ago
  I've been banned for Uber for filing a security report. Honestly, I've given the money that I spent on Uber to Lyft (and Carey car services). It's not the end of the world.
- freepor 7y ago
  This is a point of view from someone who can afford alternatives. Taxis have long been the transport of last resort for the destitute/homeless and with Uber replacing taxis this does become a serious issue for many.
  - lmm 7y ago
    > Taxis have long been the transport of last resort for the destitute/homeless WTF? Taxis are expensive. Destitute people take the bus, ride bicycles (in various conditions), or walk.
    - freepor 7y ago
      Yes, but in some situations the cab is all they have. Read the memoirs of taxi drivers, many have been published. Part of the high cost of being poor.
      - OJFord 7y ago
        Many people would save money by not having (insuring, taxing, maintaining, fueling) a car and instead using taxis.
    - dwyerm 7y ago
      Only if you're the one paying. The ADA requires 'paratransit' service for persons whose disabilities prevent them from using accessible, non-commuter, fixed route bus service. In many cities paratransit is handed off to taxi services.
      - lmm 7y ago
        Sure, but that isn't going to involve Uber at any level.
hoi 7y ago
I don't use uber, or any other taxi app. Depends a lot on where you live and whether public taxis and public transport infrastructure is well developed. I can imagine this would be a nightmare in the USA, it was when I lived there pre-Uber days, waiting for a bus could take 45 mins. Out here in Asia, Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong etc, there really isn't a big need for Uber, sure it's useful, but plenty of alternatives that are just as convenient.
rbritton 7y ago
Uber will ban you even if charges are reversed due to someone using a stolen card. It happened to someone I work with.
- AlexandrB 7y ago
  Such customer service! So much better than the taxi “cartels”! More disruption, please!!
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tallanvor 7y ago
Most people - even those in the US - will never use Airbnb. Being unable to use their service because you did a chargeback or sued them when they overcharged you is not a real loss.
Nextgrid 7y ago
Counterpoint: I did multiple chargebacks against these monkeys for very similar reasons and they haven't banned my account yet, so maybe it works differently in the Europe or UK?
netsharc 7y ago
My final straw with airbnb was this article https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43k7z3/nationwide-fake-host-scam-on-airbnb https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43k7z3/nationwide-fake-ho..., so I went to their site and requested that my account be deleted. Even on that article, the 2nd to last paragraph was: > Even after a month of digging through public records, scouring the internet for clues, repeatedly calling Airbnb and confronting the man who called himself Patrick, I can’t say I’ll be leaving the platform, either. Dealing with Airbnb’s easily exploitable and occasionally crazy-making system is still just a bit cheaper than renting a hotel. With another platform offering rentals but taking a 30% cut, a trick I found was to google the address or name, often they'd be listed there as well. Then I'd call them and ask if they have a room, and if they could offer me a discount (I was travelling around Iceland, many people doing the ringroad would just show up in the afternoon/evening and leave the next morning). Obviously this doesn't work with anonymous airbnb providers.

wolco 7y ago

Just use a different card. There are services for the banned. Besides get use to the horror of not ever using Uber when they close up shop or raise prices which is coming soon and would have come sooner if they could bankrupt lyft.

Maxious 7y ago
Uber certainly are more sophisticated in banning than just matching card numbers, their techniques have already been battle tested in outsmarting regulators where Uber was operating outside of local laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyball https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyball

tasogare 7y ago

> imagine the inconvenience of not having Uber for the rest of your life Imagine thinking you need Uber to live your life...

imroot 7y ago
I've been banned for Uber for filing a security report. Honestly, I've given the money that I spent on Uber to Lyft (and Carey car services). It's not the end of the world.
freepor 7y ago
This is a point of view from someone who can afford alternatives. Taxis have long been the transport of last resort for the destitute/homeless and with Uber replacing taxis this does become a serious issue for many.
- lmm 7y ago
  > Taxis have long been the transport of last resort for the destitute/homeless WTF? Taxis are expensive. Destitute people take the bus, ride bicycles (in various conditions), or walk.
  - freepor 7y ago
    Yes, but in some situations the cab is all they have. Read the memoirs of taxi drivers, many have been published. Part of the high cost of being poor.
    - OJFord 7y ago
      Many people would save money by not having (insuring, taxing, maintaining, fueling) a car and instead using taxis.
  - dwyerm 7y ago
    Only if you're the one paying. The ADA requires 'paratransit' service for persons whose disabilities prevent them from using accessible, non-commuter, fixed route bus service. In many cities paratransit is handed off to taxi services.
    - lmm 7y ago
      Sure, but that isn't going to involve Uber at any level.

hoi 7y ago

I don't use uber, or any other taxi app. Depends a lot on where you live and whether public taxis and public transport infrastructure is well developed. I can imagine this would be a nightmare in the USA, it was when I lived there pre-Uber days, waiting for a bus could take 45 mins. Out here in Asia, Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong etc, there really isn't a big need for Uber, sure it's useful, but plenty of alternatives that are just as convenient.

rbritton 7y ago

Uber will ban you even if charges are reversed due to someone using a stolen card. It happened to someone I work with.

AlexandrB 7y ago
Such customer service! So much better than the taxi “cartels”! More disruption, please!!

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tallanvor 7y ago

Most people - even those in the US - will never use Airbnb. Being unable to use their service because you did a chargeback or sued them when they overcharged you is not a real loss.

Nextgrid 7y ago

Counterpoint: I did multiple chargebacks against these monkeys for very similar reasons and they haven't banned my account yet, so maybe it works differently in the Europe or UK?

netsharc 7y ago

My final straw with airbnb was this article https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43k7z3/nationwide-fake-host-scam-on-airbnb https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43k7z3/nationwide-fake-ho..., so I went to their site and requested that my account be deleted. Even on that article, the 2nd to last paragraph was: > Even after a month of digging through public records, scouring the internet for clues, repeatedly calling Airbnb and confronting the man who called himself Patrick, I can’t say I’ll be leaving the platform, either. Dealing with Airbnb’s easily exploitable and occasionally crazy-making system is still just a bit cheaper than renting a hotel. With another platform offering rentals but taking a 30% cut, a trick I found was to google the address or name, often they'd be listed there as well. Then I'd call them and ask if they have a room, and if they could offer me a discount (I was travelling around Iceland, many people doing the ringroad would just show up in the afternoon/evening and leave the next morning). Obviously this doesn't work with anonymous airbnb providers.