> Then these people should explain how all the Starbucks employees, the janitors, and the delivery guys that make their "culturally interesting" living possible

> Then these people should explain how all the Starbucks employees, the janitors, and the delivery guys that make their "culturally interesting" living possible should live and travel to work. They could simply argue, that these jobs would not exist without densification. Take the other extreme: I don't think Starbucks employees would earn more if everyone would live on firms miles apart from each other. Starbucks would be gone in this scenario. Everyone would be poorer, albeit equally poorer. So I would argue, you need to invest in public transportation and housing of different price ranges, possibly even built by the city itself, so threre are less incentives to defend legislation hindering new buildings, the actual reason why those workers are getting squeezed out. If you additionally try to focus on education and upward mobility you get a fair society.