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I would never wish what happened to the people at HBGary on anyone (Dumping all their private emails? Deleting all their data?), but the more that comes out the

I would never wish what happened to the people at HBGary on anyone (Dumping all their private emails? Deleting all their data?), but the more that comes out the harder it is to sympathize with them. How do you do this crap and live with yourself after?

redthrowaway 16y ago
Anon wouldn't have targeted HBGary were it not for Aaron Barr's bragging that he had identified so-called "leaders and founders" and would be going public with that info, as well as giving it to LE. This is simply a matter of kicking the hornet's nest and suffering the consequences. Anonymous isn't highly skilled by any definition, but it's stupid to intentionally goad them into taking action against you. Especially given hbg fed's terrible security practices.
iuguy 16y ago
It's important to note that the sleazy stuff comes from HBGary Federal, a wholly owned but independent subsidiary of HBGary Inc. HBGary Federal appear to have been set up to do government work, and were struggling to get it so it appears that Barr and Vera went down a fairly dark path to keep things going. The big question is how much of this was known to the top brass in the parent company. My guess is not a lot, as having met Penny and Greg I don't think they'd support the idea of going after wikileaks. In fact, even Karen Burke's emails about the anonymous stuff show that the parent company were quite uneasy about the whole anonymous research in general. It does seem like Aaron Barr is a bit of a fool and quite a nasty piece of work to boot. I noticed his talk was removed from B-Sides SF. He should (for HBGary's sake, if not his own) do the decent thing and fall on his sword.
- Starmonkey 16y ago
  "It's important to note that the sleazy stuff comes from HBGary Federal." Some of these email "teasers" would indicate otherwise: http://anonleaks.ru/ http://anonleaks.ru/

redthrowaway 16y ago

Anon wouldn't have targeted HBGary were it not for Aaron Barr's bragging that he had identified so-called "leaders and founders" and would be going public with that info, as well as giving it to LE. This is simply a matter of kicking the hornet's nest and suffering the consequences. Anonymous isn't highly skilled by any definition, but it's stupid to intentionally goad them into taking action against you. Especially given hbg fed's terrible security practices.

iuguy 16y ago

It's important to note that the sleazy stuff comes from HBGary Federal, a wholly owned but independent subsidiary of HBGary Inc. HBGary Federal appear to have been set up to do government work, and were struggling to get it so it appears that Barr and Vera went down a fairly dark path to keep things going. The big question is how much of this was known to the top brass in the parent company. My guess is not a lot, as having met Penny and Greg I don't think they'd support the idea of going after wikileaks. In fact, even Karen Burke's emails about the anonymous stuff show that the parent company were quite uneasy about the whole anonymous research in general. It does seem like Aaron Barr is a bit of a fool and quite a nasty piece of work to boot. I noticed his talk was removed from B-Sides SF. He should (for HBGary's sake, if not his own) do the decent thing and fall on his sword.

Starmonkey 16y ago
"It's important to note that the sleazy stuff comes from HBGary Federal." Some of these email "teasers" would indicate otherwise: http://anonleaks.ru/ http://anonleaks.ru/