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I've been screaming about this for years and only recently have people begun agreeing with me - and I know exactly what the major problems are, and they are syn
by allovernow 7y ago
I've been screaming about this for years and only recently have people begun agreeing with me - and I know exactly what the major problems are, and they are synergistic:
1. SEO has totally warped result rankings. Now instead of getting results which naturally match my keywords because of content, I'm presented with almost exclusively commercial websites which are trying to sell me something. Gone are the days where you could search for technical terms and not be bombarded by marketing websites.
2. Google's AI is far too aggressive for technical searching. It is clear that Google is using NLP to parse queries and substitute synonyms based on some sort of BERT-like encoding. The problem is that a given word may have synonyms that are actually orthogonal in meaning space. For example, if I search for trunk, Google may return results for "boot" as in car trunk, instead of anything related to SVN. Contrived example, sure - but here's where the real problem is: Google's AI is regressing to the layman's mean. It is effectively overfitting to Grandma's average search query. Think of it as the endless summer of search...and since there's no way to usefully customize your search now (can't give people too many options or they might get confused!), you're stuck combing through unrelated results and it is increasingly difficult to disambiguate your search query. Remember when advanced search existed and typing in a question to search was terrible practice? That shouldn't have changed - but as more and more non-technical people started searching, Google (rightly, from a marketing perspective) seized the opportunity aggressively.
3. Primarily because of a combination of points 1 and 2 above, and the endless summer of non-technical users, informative websites have all but disappeared in search results, replaced by shitty SEO optimized blog spam and commercial websites which offer high level summaries primarily to generate traffic and sell you shit. Curious about how to repair your own roof in detail? Well don't bother searching "roof repair" (and quotes seem to be broken too btw) because the first two pages will be full of roof repair company websites.
So what is the result? The portal to the greatest asset in the history of the civilization, the internet, has gradually turned into a neutered, commercialized corporate service where users are a product. It's tragic to see all of that empowerment thrown away in the name of profit. As they say, if the user doesn't see it, it isn't there, and for this reason Google is effectively killing the internet.
I haven't even gotten into the demonstrated potential for search curation and autocomplete abuse, where Google becomes an effective, centralized arbiter of truth as the defacto portal to the internet, and how dangerous such a concentrated power over society can be.
Google really was admirable when it wasn't evil - now I'm about convinced that it needs to die.
- zozbot234 7y agoWell, '"roof repair"' was never a good search for obvious reasons. But you'd expect a search like '"how to" repair roof' to mostly filter out sites providing roof-repair services - and if a search engine doesn't do that properly (because it ignores the "how to" part as irrelevant even though it's in quotes!) that's just broken.
- drivebycomment 7y agoI tried "how to repair roof" and the first organic result is the featured snippet of how to fix shingles, with bunch of youtube videos on various roof repair methods next, with DIY repair sites. So I don't see anything broken there ?
- lubujackson 7y agoGoogle has fallen to Goodhart's Law: "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure." For years, Google moved the goalposts for what measurements of a good website were and the broad internet moved in lockstep to meet those goals. Until Google settled on a "thin veneer of content but actually an ad for a service" as not too spammy to blacklist. So that is now the advice for any business. Hey, want to place highly for "St. Louis dentist"? Make a top 10 list of toothbrushing mistakes, etc. Second, Google shifted about 7-10 years ago from searching for webpages to searching for answers. This was reflected in how they communicated about search and also in stuff like showing infoboxes and AMP results. I think this was move into mobile, but it leaves the actual web underserved. The worst part is they have been removing tons of older content from the web that is still there and is still valuable but has become no longer surfaceable, even with direct quoted phrases.