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1. Ad tech is a product which people are willing to pay for. It’s extremely unlikely that it provides no positive effect to all these customers. I'm talking ab

1. Ad tech is a product which people are willing to pay for. It’s extremely unlikely that it provides no positive effect to all these customers. I'm talking about positive effects to "the world" / society / the public at large. Obviously not to the people getting their pockets filled. 2. Ad Tech is trying to make advertising experience better No, they're trying to make more money. Whether they do so by making the advertising "experience" (I loathe that freaking word) better or worse it's irrelevant. 3. AdTech (which GP kinda mentioned) pays for a lot of things that are available for free and likely wouldn’t be otherwise Slavery pays for a lot of cheap or free things as well, so that's not a really good argument in of itself, is it?

mynameishere 7y ago
You don't sound like a person capable of being persuaded by anything (using strawman arguments about slavery is a pretty good sign of that) but I have in the past sold non-software products and the simplest option to promote them is stuff like adwords/adsense. The alternative would be dealing with magazine ads and the like which is a whole different profession I would have to learn. Companies have whole departments to deal with that headache. And probably the 1000+ dollar budget involved would be beyond my scale.
- akiselev 7y ago
  How about lax environmental regulations in developing countries leading to cheaper products paid for by ecological wastelands? That should be enough to get over that particular rhetorical hangup although you don't sound like you're capable of being convinced in this case either because your convenience depends on a barrage of information aimed at everyone unlucky enough to pass by a computer screen (or go outside). Regardless, the GGP's arguments are specious, circular, and delusional. The fact that the GP used slavery as an example doesn't take away from that. (And yes I get the irony of this post, advertising is that hill I chose to die on).
closeparen 7y ago
>I'm talking about positive effects to "the world" / society / the public at large. Obviously not to the people getting their pockets filled. People buying stuff from those businesses must at least think they are benefitting from the transactions in some way.
- bentcorner 7y ago
  I ad-block everything I possibly can, or pay for non-ad versions of media, and I don't think I'm missing out on anything. Obviously I can't block everything, but I'm having trouble coming up with some kind of improvement to my life that not ad-blocking would bring me.

mynameishere 7y ago

You don't sound like a person capable of being persuaded by anything (using strawman arguments about slavery is a pretty good sign of that) but I have in the past sold non-software products and the simplest option to promote them is stuff like adwords/adsense. The alternative would be dealing with magazine ads and the like which is a whole different profession I would have to learn. Companies have whole departments to deal with that headache. And probably the 1000+ dollar budget involved would be beyond my scale.

akiselev 7y ago
How about lax environmental regulations in developing countries leading to cheaper products paid for by ecological wastelands? That should be enough to get over that particular rhetorical hangup although you don't sound like you're capable of being convinced in this case either because your convenience depends on a barrage of information aimed at everyone unlucky enough to pass by a computer screen (or go outside). Regardless, the GGP's arguments are specious, circular, and delusional. The fact that the GP used slavery as an example doesn't take away from that. (And yes I get the irony of this post, advertising is that hill I chose to die on).

closeparen 7y ago

>I'm talking about positive effects to "the world" / society / the public at large. Obviously not to the people getting their pockets filled. People buying stuff from those businesses must at least think they are benefitting from the transactions in some way.

bentcorner 7y ago
I ad-block everything I possibly can, or pay for non-ad versions of media, and I don't think I'm missing out on anything. Obviously I can't block everything, but I'm having trouble coming up with some kind of improvement to my life that not ad-blocking would bring me.