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> Ex-USSR fiefdoms, Russia included, are ran by very simple people, without any geopolitical ambitions. The people of Georgia, Crimea, and the rest of Ukraine
by linkregister 7y ago
> Ex-USSR fiefdoms, Russia included, are ran by very simple people, without any geopolitical ambitions.
The people of Georgia, Crimea, and the rest of Ukraine would beg to differ.
- texasbigdata 7y agoGo back another 60 to 70 years and a few more would too.
- baybal2 7y agoHow to say... Russians invasions are acts of war, squarely and simple, but they do so without any tinfoil "geopolitical conspiracy" in mind. There is no bigger "grand plan" to them than to an 8th century Viking raid: more subjects, loot, and territories to use to stage further invasions. Danes cared more for how tasty the British were, before they started to care about the British throne and court politics in the bigger Post-Roman world.
- eru 7y agoThe conquest of Crimea was probably more about providing a distraction for domestic audiences than anything else?
- wanderer2323 7y agoThe "conquest" of Crimea was a response to an implied threat to a natural gas trade with Europe in the followup of a western-sponsored coup. (to be even more specic, Crimean events were mostly about regaining the control of the Black Sea Fleet naval base, while Donbass events were about reacting to a hostile coup, but the two things are closely related) It was also an object lesson to all the minor powers in the region: you cannot take US money to have a small victorious colour revolution anymore. Not in Russia's backyard. edit: oh wow downvotes, I am so surprised /s
- dang 7y agoPlease don't go on about downvotes. It's against the site guidelines, is tedious, and usually turns out to be wrong. In the end your post got almost no downvotes relative to upvotes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- HenryBemis 7y agoI think it was the approach that a former ally (Ukraine) would open up the door to NATO/USA and Russia didn't like having a USA naval base right on its doorstep, and losing control of the Black Sea. There may already be USA'S military bases nearby (Romania, Bulgaria, etc) but not THAT close.
- Thorrez 7y ago> more subjects, loot, and territories to use to stage further invasions. That sounds like a geopolitical ambition to me.
- anticodon 7y agoLOL, please, show any country looted by Russia. Even during Soviet times most of Russia GDP was spent to raise quality of life in republics, especially Baltic republics. And now Russia spend enormous amount of money to develop Crimea. Where's the looting?
- d0mine 7y agoWhich of the following statements are true: - Crimea became part of Russia before Texas became part of US - Crimea became part of Russia before (around the time) US independence - Kievan Rus' is older than Aztec Empire
- brnt 7y agoAh, I like this game! - Before the US, the colonies were English, French, Dutch, Swedish, etc. - Before the colonies, it was of course Native American land. - Before the Anglosaxons, Britain was Celtic. - Kievans are much older than Russians. Russia was created by a few Swedes forking the local Slav tribes. - Before Moscow, there were Poles Bulgarians and Mongols. Shall we go on?
- d0mine 7y agothat is the point. Should British demand their colonies back? Should Indians demand their land?
- HenryBemis 7y agoHeh, I cannot Reply to brnt's post so I am using 1 lvl higher. My favourite examples are ancient Greece, Rome, ancient Mongolia, etc. Cherry picking moments in time to redefine borders is dangerous to say the least. Give the Italians half Europe and Near East? Give Greece everything from South Italy (Magna Grecian) all the way to Afghanistan? Crimea was part of Russia, true. Give Italy what it had first and then we will give Crimea to Russia (and let's have a WW3 and all be dead me give the planet the break it deserves (from human stupidity))
- vbezhenar 7y agoRussia feels that Crimea and eastern Ukraine is actually part of Russia. It was separated at paper, but it wasn't separated in souls. So you can expect further conquests of Ukraine parts, until there's no more people in the remaining Ukraine parts who identify themselves as part of Russian culture. And probably those who remain will just be conquered by Poland and that's about it.
- anticodon 7y agoActually, people of Crimea are happy to be part of the US. But I guess you will never learn this from Western mass media.