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> Apple music is pretty much exactly the same as iTunes was without a bunch of non-music related features. Hmm, not really. I took a brief look at the UI durin

> Apple music is pretty much exactly the same as iTunes was without a bunch of non-music related features. Hmm, not really. I took a brief look at the UI during the Catalina beta and concluded that I wanted nothing to do with it. I have spent years learning how to use iTunes well. I'm not about to throw away that investment of time and energy on a new, untested app with a different UI. I'll stick with iTunes to manage my music library. Catalina will have to wait, probably forever.

sysbin 7y ago
The new UI in Catalina is worse. You cannot view other albums when you have an album open, instead you have to click a button to go back for viewing all the albums again. I also think the music app takes way too much space of the screen for what it needs shown to function. Apple must not have anyone seriously working on it.
wwweston 7y ago
> I'm not about to throw away that investment of time and energy on a new, untested app with a different UI. Come on, now. Think of the poor product managers, the struggling UX researchers and designers. How are they going to make their careers off of minor upgrades tied down to past investments of users?
- zentiggr 7y ago
  Jean-Baptiste Emannuel Zorg, channeled here... I'll be ready to pound your back when you choke on that cherry :)
- chmaynard 7y ago
  When I was working at Apple, some of us had a saying: "Apple knows what you need, and we're going to give it to you – good and hard."
WWLink 7y ago
Speaking of that, iTunes Radio and Apple Music are TERRIBLE guis! The web-based column views are really limited and crappy. You can do so much better with web GUIs if you want to, but Apple just wanted to waste a ton of screen space.
tzs 7y ago
For a long time the only interface in iTunes that I've really liked was the Column Browser interface. That's remained available throughout the various changes in iTunes and now in Music over the years, but disappeared in Catalina. Fortunately, that disappearance was only temporary. It returned in 10.15.2. Select "Songs" in the left sidebar, and a "Column Browser" submenu will be added to the View menu. Turn it on (⌘B), and you get a nice, no-nonsense, high information density view of your collection, letting you quickly filter by genre, artist, and album. Right click on a column heading and you can add columns for composer and grouping or remove columns.
- pmullins 7y ago
  FYI, The column browser interface is back in the Music app as of the 10.15.3 Beta.

sysbin 7y ago

The new UI in Catalina is worse. You cannot view other albums when you have an album open, instead you have to click a button to go back for viewing all the albums again. I also think the music app takes way too much space of the screen for what it needs shown to function. Apple must not have anyone seriously working on it.

wwweston 7y ago

> I'm not about to throw away that investment of time and energy on a new, untested app with a different UI. Come on, now. Think of the poor product managers, the struggling UX researchers and designers. How are they going to make their careers off of minor upgrades tied down to past investments of users?

zentiggr 7y ago
Jean-Baptiste Emannuel Zorg, channeled here... I'll be ready to pound your back when you choke on that cherry :)
chmaynard 7y ago
When I was working at Apple, some of us had a saying: "Apple knows what you need, and we're going to give it to you – good and hard."

WWLink 7y ago

Speaking of that, iTunes Radio and Apple Music are TERRIBLE guis! The web-based column views are really limited and crappy. You can do so much better with web GUIs if you want to, but Apple just wanted to waste a ton of screen space.

tzs 7y ago

For a long time the only interface in iTunes that I've really liked was the Column Browser interface. That's remained available throughout the various changes in iTunes and now in Music over the years, but disappeared in Catalina. Fortunately, that disappearance was only temporary. It returned in 10.15.2. Select "Songs" in the left sidebar, and a "Column Browser" submenu will be added to the View menu. Turn it on (⌘B), and you get a nice, no-nonsense, high information density view of your collection, letting you quickly filter by genre, artist, and album. Right click on a column heading and you can add columns for composer and grouping or remove columns.

pmullins 7y ago
FYI, The column browser interface is back in the Music app as of the 10.15.3 Beta.