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Experts Condemn Keto. Will People Finally Stop?

6 points by miles 7y ago

rmtech 7y ago
Keto + regular gym works better than anything else to get a man into shape quickly. If you care about that a lot for some reason, then you should do keto and let the "experts" talk to the hand. It might be bad for your heart/kidneys/whatever in the long term, but almost everything that's good or fun is harmful in some way and life is a terminal condition. Also, nothing works for sustained weight loss.
JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
> Eating so few carbs even sends many new keto-ers into something called the “keto flu,” a sure sign your body is extremely pissed off at what you’re doing to it. If you make any drastic dietary change (e.g., going from 300g carbs/day to < 20g), your body will be temporarily upset with you. That doesn't mean the dietary change is bad. This piece really lacks in substance. First off, there's a huge variety of carbs out there: fiber, sugar, and complex carbohydrates for one, and they're all metabolically different. Second, there's tons of options between Keto and 300g/carbs per day: a low-carb diet. What's missing from this discussion is the fact that many people eat low-quality carbs: high in sugars, low in fiber, and Keto is a simple method for removing the least nutritionally valuable items from ones diet: soda, chips, anything in a snack food aisle, etc. A more nuanced opinion would be: people need to a eat a different type of carbs: quinoa, or carbs from whole fruits and vegetables, for example. Criticism that keto takes this too far is fair, but the author fails to give a serious alternative to people looking to manage their diets. But it's farfetched to say Keto will kill you.
- SamPatt 7y ago
  Agreed. Keto is effective because it's an exclusionary diet, and while it does exclude some healthy foods, it also excludes the majority of junk food that makes modern diets so poor. The adaptability of humans makes me think the "perfect diet" doesn't exist. But I imagine the closest we can get is being grounded in common sense moderation. This coming from someone who has been on keto over two years, lost 80 lbs and kept it off.
mindcrime 7y ago
additional experts warned against the long-term effects (like increased risk of cardiovascular disease) keto might have on the body. This is why (well, among other reasons) I'm categorizing this article in the "bullshit" category. Everything I've read on this subject (which is a fair amount), and everything I've heard from medical professionals (including my GP, my cardiologist, and a doctor who specializes in keto) suggests that keto is better from a cardiovascular health standpoint, as people on the keto diet routinely see an improved lipid profile, including more "healthy" cholesterol, and lower triglycerides.

6 points by miles 7y ago

Keto + regular gym works better than anything else to get a man into shape quickly. If you care about that a lot for some reason, then you should do keto and let the "experts" talk to the hand. It might be bad for your heart/kidneys/whatever in the long term, but almost everything that's good or fun is harmful in some way and life is a terminal condition. Also, nothing works for sustained weight loss.

JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago

> Eating so few carbs even sends many new keto-ers into something called the “keto flu,” a sure sign your body is extremely pissed off at what you’re doing to it. If you make any drastic dietary change (e.g., going from 300g carbs/day to < 20g), your body will be temporarily upset with you. That doesn't mean the dietary change is bad. This piece really lacks in substance. First off, there's a huge variety of carbs out there: fiber, sugar, and complex carbohydrates for one, and they're all metabolically different. Second, there's tons of options between Keto and 300g/carbs per day: a low-carb diet. What's missing from this discussion is the fact that many people eat low-quality carbs: high in sugars, low in fiber, and Keto is a simple method for removing the least nutritionally valuable items from ones diet: soda, chips, anything in a snack food aisle, etc. A more nuanced opinion would be: people need to a eat a different type of carbs: quinoa, or carbs from whole fruits and vegetables, for example. Criticism that keto takes this too far is fair, but the author fails to give a serious alternative to people looking to manage their diets. But it's farfetched to say Keto will kill you.

SamPatt 7y ago
Agreed. Keto is effective because it's an exclusionary diet, and while it does exclude some healthy foods, it also excludes the majority of junk food that makes modern diets so poor. The adaptability of humans makes me think the "perfect diet" doesn't exist. But I imagine the closest we can get is being grounded in common sense moderation. This coming from someone who has been on keto over two years, lost 80 lbs and kept it off.

mindcrime 7y ago

additional experts warned against the long-term effects (like increased risk of cardiovascular disease) keto might have on the body. This is why (well, among other reasons) I'm categorizing this article in the "bullshit" category. Everything I've read on this subject (which is a fair amount), and everything I've heard from medical professionals (including my GP, my cardiologist, and a doctor who specializes in keto) suggests that keto is better from a cardiovascular health standpoint, as people on the keto diet routinely see an improved lipid profile, including more "healthy" cholesterol, and lower triglycerides.