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They should look into how the US Navy switched back to physical switches from touch screens on ships for unambiguous commands.

by pts_ 7y ago

brianwawok 7y ago
Gas and steering are physical controls though. Radio and other such features do not need dedicated buttons. Crazy how many buttons my normal car has.
- demosito666 7y ago
  Everything you need at least once week while driving in a car should be doable without taking your eyes from the road for more than a second. Radio, AC, window heating and such fall under this category. And you have exactly the same amount of buttons on a screen anyway, they're just not physical.
- NikolaNovak 7y ago
  Again, that's a personal preference. Next, Previous, Pause, Play, Mute - I personally want them to be physical controls. On steering wheel ideally, on the dashboard otherwise. I use them multiple times a drive, and I don't want to take my eyes off the road to do them. Same with seat heat, lights, wipers - anything I may want to do while driving, I want a button. Setting up the exact shade of my dashboard light - that can be buried in a menu :D Basically... when you say "Crazy how many buttons my normal car has" : - You say that as a bad thing - I see that as a brilliant thing... IFF done well: Of course, physical buttons/levers/knobs can still be done well, or poorly. Having many identical buttons in a confusing layout is just as bad as touchscreen - I have to look at them to use them. Having buttons in a good, intuitive layout; especially buttons which are distinct from each other, as opposed to row of 6 buttons all the same, is brilliant. Even better if it's a distinct combination of buttons, knobs, switches, levers, etc - anything to help haptic feedback and intuitive access. Sometimes I think people who are against buttons may simply never had a car with good physical UI:/ (simple thing - my old 2004 WRX has a next / previous knob-like-thing, rather than two identical buttons next to each other [1]. It felt ridiculous when I first saw it - but then I realized its quality of purpose vs sexiness - I never ever ever have to think or be distracted even a millisecond to know exactly how to skip a song :). Compare to cars which have several identical square buttons for next, previous, pause, play; or temp up, temp down, fan up, fan down, A/C -- that's just horrible UI by clueless people for customers who don't know / haven't experienced better :-/ ] 1: Bottom right of the stereo: https://images.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageBank/v20031113120400/ImageHandler/scale/978/978/core/learn/article/2997/radio.jpg https://images.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageBank/v200311131204...

They should look into how the US Navy switched back to physical switches from touch screens on ships for unambiguous commands.

by pts_ 7y ago

They should look into how the US Navy switched back to physical switches from touch screens on ships for unambiguous commands.

brianwawok 7y ago

Gas and steering are physical controls though. Radio and other such features do not need dedicated buttons. Crazy how many buttons my normal car has.

demosito666 7y ago
Everything you need at least once week while driving in a car should be doable without taking your eyes from the road for more than a second. Radio, AC, window heating and such fall under this category. And you have exactly the same amount of buttons on a screen anyway, they're just not physical.
NikolaNovak 7y ago
Again, that's a personal preference. Next, Previous, Pause, Play, Mute - I personally want them to be physical controls. On steering wheel ideally, on the dashboard otherwise. I use them multiple times a drive, and I don't want to take my eyes off the road to do them. Same with seat heat, lights, wipers - anything I may want to do while driving, I want a button. Setting up the exact shade of my dashboard light - that can be buried in a menu :D Basically... when you say "Crazy how many buttons my normal car has" : - You say that as a bad thing - I see that as a brilliant thing... IFF done well: Of course, physical buttons/levers/knobs can still be done well, or poorly. Having many identical buttons in a confusing layout is just as bad as touchscreen - I have to look at them to use them. Having buttons in a good, intuitive layout; especially buttons which are distinct from each other, as opposed to row of 6 buttons all the same, is brilliant. Even better if it's a distinct combination of buttons, knobs, switches, levers, etc - anything to help haptic feedback and intuitive access. Sometimes I think people who are against buttons may simply never had a car with good physical UI:/ (simple thing - my old 2004 WRX has a next / previous knob-like-thing, rather than two identical buttons next to each other [1]. It felt ridiculous when I first saw it - but then I realized its quality of purpose vs sexiness - I never ever ever have to think or be distracted even a millisecond to know exactly how to skip a song :). Compare to cars which have several identical square buttons for next, previous, pause, play; or temp up, temp down, fan up, fan down, A/C -- that's just horrible UI by clueless people for customers who don't know / haven't experienced better :-/ ] 1: Bottom right of the stereo: https://images.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageBank/v20031113120400/ImageHandler/scale/978/978/core/learn/article/2997/radio.jpg https://images.crutchfieldonline.com/ImageBank/v200311131204...