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Probably not a popular sentiment, but for someone continuing to use and maintain a Win XP Thinkpad T60, this is really cool news.

mkup 7y ago
Are you aware of any other web browsers for Windows XP, which are still updated, besides MyPal and this one (SeaMonkey)?
- TheKIngofBelAir 7y ago
  New Moon, K-Meleon, 360 Extreme Explorer (Chromium 78) https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2... https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-general-discussion/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chr...
- haunter 7y ago
  Maxthon XP is still huge in China https://www.maxthon.com https://www.maxthon.com I use that on my XP VM You can find all here http://www.xpbrowsers.com http://www.xpbrowsers.com
  - XzetaU8 7y ago
    "Bug that grants admin rights to malware found in Maxthon, China's favorite browser" https://www.zdnet.com/article/bug-that-grants-admin-rights-to-malware-found-in-maxthon-chinas-favorite-browser/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/bug-that-grants-admin-rights-t...
relyks 7y ago
This is interesting. Why would anyone need to still use Windows XP?
- luxuryballs 7y ago
  Same reasons people still use record players perhaps.
- igetspam 7y ago
  Caveat: I only run Linux and for most of the last 20+ years that has been true. My windows experience is very limited and very outdated. For me, the last version of windows that was usable out of the box was 2k. The interface was clean and intuitive. With some work, you could make XP behave like 2k. Not sure about 7 but doing that in 10 appears to be impossible. (I've tried to help family members make sense of it, with no luck.) If I had to use windows for something, that's the UI I'd hope for. I don't get what's going on with it any more. I'd take it over macos but that's just because I have some muscle memory for the keyboard shortcuts and I find the macos shell hyper unintuitive too. I use xfce because it feel like just enough UI to run the two GUI applications I use: xterm and a browser. Maybe it's time to use SeaMonkey again. Used to love it.
wott 7y ago
> for someone continuing to use and maintain a Win XP Thinkpad T60, this is really cool news. Less cool news: "SeaMonkey 2.49.5 will be the last version supporting Windows XP/Server 2003 and Vista/Server 2008." (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/legacy https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/legacy) Yep, the "let's drop everything which has been stabilised and working fine for 15 years" frenzy has reached them too :-(
- ubercow13 7y ago
  If you're OK with using an unmaintained operating system, why not just keep using the 2.49.5 version of Seamonkey indefinitely.
  - wott 7y ago
    Because that's quite unrelated. Websites display will be fine or break independently of the OS, but depending how the browser has been updated to follow the last trend or not. Same goes for security: if he doesn't install crap on his XP, the main source of danger is Internet: malicious files input to unmaintained programs, and of course his Web browser first. Maybe there are performance improvement coming too, either in the browser or the e-mail client. Personally, I don't use XP, but I'm stuck with 2.49.1 because they broke GTK2 support between that version and 2.49.5. When I'll have enough, I'll switch to another browser, perhaps Palemoon which still had GTK2 support last time I built it (28.6.1). /Edit:/ Just checked on Palemoon forum: they say they will support GTK2 until at least 2024.

mkup 7y ago

Are you aware of any other web browsers for Windows XP, which are still updated, besides MyPal and this one (SeaMonkey)?

TheKIngofBelAir 7y ago
New Moon, K-Meleon, 360 Extreme Explorer (Chromium 78) https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2... https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-general-discussion/ https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chr...
haunter 7y ago
Maxthon XP is still huge in China https://www.maxthon.com https://www.maxthon.com I use that on my XP VM You can find all here http://www.xpbrowsers.com http://www.xpbrowsers.com
- XzetaU8 7y ago
  "Bug that grants admin rights to malware found in Maxthon, China's favorite browser" https://www.zdnet.com/article/bug-that-grants-admin-rights-to-malware-found-in-maxthon-chinas-favorite-browser/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/bug-that-grants-admin-rights-t...

relyks 7y ago

This is interesting. Why would anyone need to still use Windows XP?

luxuryballs 7y ago
Same reasons people still use record players perhaps.
igetspam 7y ago
Caveat: I only run Linux and for most of the last 20+ years that has been true. My windows experience is very limited and very outdated. For me, the last version of windows that was usable out of the box was 2k. The interface was clean and intuitive. With some work, you could make XP behave like 2k. Not sure about 7 but doing that in 10 appears to be impossible. (I've tried to help family members make sense of it, with no luck.) If I had to use windows for something, that's the UI I'd hope for. I don't get what's going on with it any more. I'd take it over macos but that's just because I have some muscle memory for the keyboard shortcuts and I find the macos shell hyper unintuitive too. I use xfce because it feel like just enough UI to run the two GUI applications I use: xterm and a browser. Maybe it's time to use SeaMonkey again. Used to love it.

wott 7y ago

> for someone continuing to use and maintain a Win XP Thinkpad T60, this is really cool news. Less cool news: "SeaMonkey 2.49.5 will be the last version supporting Windows XP/Server 2003 and Vista/Server 2008." (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/legacy https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/legacy) Yep, the "let's drop everything which has been stabilised and working fine for 15 years" frenzy has reached them too :-(

ubercow13 7y ago
If you're OK with using an unmaintained operating system, why not just keep using the 2.49.5 version of Seamonkey indefinitely.
- wott 7y ago
  Because that's quite unrelated. Websites display will be fine or break independently of the OS, but depending how the browser has been updated to follow the last trend or not. Same goes for security: if he doesn't install crap on his XP, the main source of danger is Internet: malicious files input to unmaintained programs, and of course his Web browser first. Maybe there are performance improvement coming too, either in the browser or the e-mail client. Personally, I don't use XP, but I'm stuck with 2.49.1 because they broke GTK2 support between that version and 2.49.5. When I'll have enough, I'll switch to another browser, perhaps Palemoon which still had GTK2 support last time I built it (28.6.1). /Edit:/ Just checked on Palemoon forum: they say they will support GTK2 until at least 2024.