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Mass transportation options coupled with high density buildings should be the way to go. Parking just doesn’t scale. The uni I went to had a decent bus system

• sdenton4 7y ago
  Yah, UC Davis runs its own bus service (entirely run by students, actually), and has run a decades long psy-ops campaign to get people to ride bikes. It seems to have worked quite well!
  • ravar 7y ago
    Davis also has the rare advantage of rarely raining, and being incredibly flat. Both of these make biking far more attractive to the average student.
    • ryanlol 7y ago
      > being incredibly flat Europe is full of two-wheeled vehicles that manage to solve this problem.
      • ravar 7y ago
        But we are talking about what it takes to get lazy Americans to bike. I am well aware of how popular biking is in Copenhagen even though they have comparatively terrible weather. Davis truly has an unusual confluence of factors that make biking more appealing to Americans.
        • lonelappde 7y ago
          Were talking about motorcycles
        • sdenton4 7y ago
          On the other hand, lots of other cities in California and elsewhere have similar circumstances. Meanwhile, Copenhagen has very different circumstances but huge bike uptake. It's fundamentally about policy. Take the steps, and you'll get the results.
• jimmaswell 7y ago
  We don't need to mold the whole world into the tightly packed metropolis model. Those areas are fine for people who like that kind of living but a lot of others including me don't. Make the parking lots more efficiently packed, expand a bit of parking into grassy areas, build a parking garage instead of spending more on sports, there are lots of solutions here.
  • orhmeh09 7y ago
    Increasing density is precisely what we must do, because the alternative, car-centric kind of living is this close to giving us an expiration date that’s perceptibly on the horizon.
    • jimmaswell 7y ago
      I'd rather deal with climate change than have every nice woodsy town turned into Manhattan-lite.
      • paddy_m 7y ago
        Towns are fine, it's suburban sprawl that's the problem. If you like the outdoors and wilderness, you should want more people to live in the city so they don't tarnish the countryside. I would really like to see hunters start getting along with urbanists, they have more in common than they know.
      • chillwaves 7y ago
        That's easy to say when you are largely insulated by the effects due to wealth, which not coincendentally was derived from an economic system that created the crisis in the first place. That cavalier attitude cannot be adopted by the estimated 300M refugees climate change is projected to create over the next few decades.
      • chrischen 7y ago
        You don’t have to be manhattan-lite. You can totally be Tokyo-lite instead. Of course one of the main hurdles is America’s race and class problem which caused the segregation and dispersion in the first place.
• scythe 7y ago
  It's great if you have them, but the more common situation seems to be to jack up parking prices while transit is still abysmal. At Georgia Tech there was a bus that ran once every 15 minutes to the subway, and even then you couldn't get everywhere on campus from that bus, you had to take another bus, leading to 20+ minutes of transfers to get anywhere. Bus shelters were mostly nonexistent in winters that featured frequent high winds and rain. Taking the bus was such a miserable experience I ended up skateboarding everywhere, which at least kept me warm.