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Rose-tinted Red Car nostalgia is common in the post Roger Rabbit era. It was a poor private solution to what would later be a big public problem, and you can re
by stuart78 7y ago
Rose-tinted Red Car nostalgia is common in the post Roger Rabbit era. It was a poor private solution to what would later be a big public problem, and you can read a more neutral take on its demise at 99% Invisible [0].
I lived in LA for quite a few years and they opened the expo line through my neighborhood (Culver City) towards the end of my time there. It was transformational. It wasn't the fastest way to get downtown (assuming no traffic), but it meant you could have a drink without worrying about getting home. You could have a nice afternoon walking around without searching for parking. You could see an event at Staples Center and easily get home when it was over. Now the line goes all the way to Santa Monica, bringing more and more people into the fold.
I get that it is not as extensive as other systems, and parts of it share passage with cars, but it would have never gotten done as an underground system [1], and it works quite well as a complement to local bus lines.
Basically, LA Metro is actually building the infrastructure people imagine Red Car to have been. It takes decades because it is a big project and we are not good at building infrastructure quickly anymore [2], but it is a long-term investment in helping the city grow.
[0] https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-70-the-great-red-car-conspiracy/ https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-70-the-great-...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Avenue_Subway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Avenue_Subway
[2] https://patrickcollison.com/fast https://patrickcollison.com/fast
- Aloha 7y agoI'd also note, freeways parallel basically every former red car route - for a reason. The sprawly nature of LA was decided by the development papers created by the PE, the freeways just followed and reinforced those patterns.
- axiomdata316 7y agoI doubt however that LA Metro will ever have the same range of the original Red Car. I never see the system going deep into Balboa Newport Beach in Orange County.
- smcnally 7y ago> (assuming no traffic) Heh. I’ve lived in your old neighborhood (Culver City) the last two years. The % of times there’s been light traffic going east to DTLA or west to Santa Monica is <10. Expo line trains run frequently and are consistently ~30 minutes to either destination. In a car, it’s between 20 and 90 minutes. I’m from NY and spoiled with train options. The Expo line and LA Metro in general has allowed us to live here with one car and for me to mostly avoid driving altogether. Just like in NY, more cross-town train options are welcomed, and the airport extension to LAX will save time and stomach lining.