Greater LA includes a lot of stuff like Ventura/Oxnard/Riverside/San Bernadino that while on the fringes of the LA metro area, shouldn't fairly be considered LA

Greater LA includes a lot of stuff like Ventura/Oxnard/Riverside/San Bernadino that while on the fringes of the LA metro area, shouldn't fairly be considered LA proper. This skews the square milage of LA up, and the density down, where in reality if you take a more realistic view of "Los Angeles" it's definitely more dense and concentrated than Houston. I say this as a former resident of both places.