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Yes, a state with the best business friendly outcome and best business growth, is by definition the most business friendly. In data science and research, we bel

by dmode 7y ago

Yes, a state with the best business friendly outcome and best business growth, is by definition the most business friendly. In data science and research, we believe in the concept of don't trust what they say, but look at what they do. A user behavior is far more telling, than their response to a survey. Similarly, a businesses behavior is far more reflective of business friendly than a bunch of partisan rhetoric. I strongly believe that in the knowledge economy, the traditional narrow definition of business friendliness (defined by low tax and low regulation) doesn't apply. That's why many states (e.g., Kansas) tried this tax based pull strategy which fell flat. In the 21st century, you need a more a holistic definition of business friendliness that takes into account talent as a stakeholder. Thus defining policies that make a place attractive for talent to migrate, should be part of the business friendly discussion. This will include non-competes, climate and environmental laws, labor protections, social safety nets, parental leaves, LGBT friendliness, other protections etc.

JamesBarney 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_economic_growth_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... Then it looks like West Virginia and Texas are the most business friendly states, with California coming in 29th(despite being one of the nicest places to live in the U.S.). You must know different people than me. But everyone I know who moved, moved because of a job, wanted to be in a cool city, or temperature/weather/availability of natural beauty. None moved because of non-compete laws, environmental laws, labor protections, social safety nets, parental leaves, or LGBT friendliness(I never lived anywhere especially rural).
- dmode 7y ago
  Why are you citing data from 2019 Q1 ? California is the largest economy in the US, has the highest GDP, and created the most number of jobs. Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant to the macro reasons on why job growth happens. Dig deeper into what is a "cool city"
  - JamesBarney 7y ago
    You can see why highest GDP and most number of jobs would be problematic right? If we cut California in half suddenly it would be half as business friendly. And I'm pretty sure none of them were thinking about the non-compete laws or environmental regulations when they thought cool city.
thrwaway69 7y ago
> In data science and research, we believe in the concept of don't trust what they say, but look at what they do. Is that why everything keeps getting dumber and shittier to use after the company added machine learning, data science and data driven framework to their stacks? They don't need to listen to people when they can just pretend they know what people want with their 'data stick'. Obviously, majority of people know what they want. We are not just smart monkeys with terrible exploits, we are different and resistant to many short comings. There is no historical context to look at. There is no reason to believe that something is a random occurence leading to a wide chain of events afterwards. Naturally, if you opened similar app to facebook now and deployed same strategy, tracking behaviour. You would get users at the same pace. While I do think you have some valid points, intelligent people will move towards places of better quality of life and opportunities, I don't think it applies in the current example well. There are better places than California depending on metrics - homelessness, cost, pollution, transportation etc on quality of life. For opportunities, don't know but it can't be a hub for everything out there.
AdrianB1 7y ago
Lol, by your thinking the concentration camps were the best resorts because they have most occupants becoming long term residents and it means they loved the place. And you think Kansas failed because low tax is a bad idea for business, not because nobody wants to go to Kansas.

by dmode 7y ago

JamesBarney 7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_economic_growth_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... Then it looks like West Virginia and Texas are the most business friendly states, with California coming in 29th(despite being one of the nicest places to live in the U.S.). You must know different people than me. But everyone I know who moved, moved because of a job, wanted to be in a cool city, or temperature/weather/availability of natural beauty. None moved because of non-compete laws, environmental laws, labor protections, social safety nets, parental leaves, or LGBT friendliness(I never lived anywhere especially rural).

dmode 7y ago
Why are you citing data from 2019 Q1 ? California is the largest economy in the US, has the highest GDP, and created the most number of jobs. Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant to the macro reasons on why job growth happens. Dig deeper into what is a "cool city"
- JamesBarney 7y ago
  You can see why highest GDP and most number of jobs would be problematic right? If we cut California in half suddenly it would be half as business friendly. And I'm pretty sure none of them were thinking about the non-compete laws or environmental regulations when they thought cool city.

thrwaway69 7y ago

> In data science and research, we believe in the concept of don't trust what they say, but look at what they do. Is that why everything keeps getting dumber and shittier to use after the company added machine learning, data science and data driven framework to their stacks? They don't need to listen to people when they can just pretend they know what people want with their 'data stick'. Obviously, majority of people know what they want. We are not just smart monkeys with terrible exploits, we are different and resistant to many short comings. There is no historical context to look at. There is no reason to believe that something is a random occurence leading to a wide chain of events afterwards. Naturally, if you opened similar app to facebook now and deployed same strategy, tracking behaviour. You would get users at the same pace. While I do think you have some valid points, intelligent people will move towards places of better quality of life and opportunities, I don't think it applies in the current example well. There are better places than California depending on metrics - homelessness, cost, pollution, transportation etc on quality of life. For opportunities, don't know but it can't be a hub for everything out there.

AdrianB1 7y ago

Lol, by your thinking the concentration camps were the best resorts because they have most occupants becoming long term residents and it means they loved the place. And you think Kansas failed because low tax is a bad idea for business, not because nobody wants to go to Kansas.