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Yeah but COMAC has maybe 2 commercial jets that have entered service, Boeing has shuttled millions of people around the world safely for decades. We're riding a

Yeah but COMAC has maybe 2 commercial jets that have entered service, Boeing has shuttled millions of people around the world safely for decades. We're riding an aviation news scare wave right now, so every burp and fart from the industry is getting reported. That said, there's no question that COMAC doesn't have the experience of Boeing or Airbus in designing production airliners. It's like trying to throw a bunch of money at a new software team to replace Windows 10, and then get Big Corp to start replacing their machines with that.

blackrock 7y ago
This is exactly why it’s an embarrassment for Boeing. The fact that they have over 100 years of experience doing this, but yet, they made an elementary mistake. Two of their planes fell out of the sky! And at first, they blamed it on mediocre 3rd world country pilots. Then, the truth finally came out. Their design for the 737 MAX was junk. It was fatally flawed. It’s a flying death trap! They put on a larger sized engine to get more fuel efficiency. But moved the nacelle forward, which changed the flight characteristics, causing the plane to pitch its nose up. Which they tried to fix, by having 1 faulty sensor detect the balance, and to correct it with software to automatically adjust the flaps. But the sensor was wrong, and it wasn’t redundant, and the software over-corrected. And what’s the result? The planes fall out of the sky. They paper-bagged one problem with another, and another. Then they lied and sold it to the public, like it was the safest plane ever made.
- redis_mlc 7y ago
  > And at first, they blamed it on mediocre 3rd world country pilots. > Then, the truth finally came out. Their design for the 737 MAX was junk. It was fatally flawed. It’s a flying death trap! Well, both are true. The Indonesian investigators share blame between their pilots, mechanics and Boeing. Insiders expected this. And Boeing forgot they were in the aerospace business.
StreamBright 7y ago
I think the problems from Boeing mark a new era when you cannot rely anymore on a previous good record. The new structure how FAA approves airliners proven to be insufficient, for both the Dreamliner & MCAS with 737. If Boeing continues going down this path than it won't matter how long and how many passengers they shuttled.
- rossjudson 7y ago
  There's figuring out what went wrong, and then there's figuring out why nobody thought anything was wrong. At least, nobody with the authority to do something about it.

blackrock 7y ago

This is exactly why it’s an embarrassment for Boeing. The fact that they have over 100 years of experience doing this, but yet, they made an elementary mistake. Two of their planes fell out of the sky! And at first, they blamed it on mediocre 3rd world country pilots. Then, the truth finally came out. Their design for the 737 MAX was junk. It was fatally flawed. It’s a flying death trap! They put on a larger sized engine to get more fuel efficiency. But moved the nacelle forward, which changed the flight characteristics, causing the plane to pitch its nose up. Which they tried to fix, by having 1 faulty sensor detect the balance, and to correct it with software to automatically adjust the flaps. But the sensor was wrong, and it wasn’t redundant, and the software over-corrected. And what’s the result? The planes fall out of the sky. They paper-bagged one problem with another, and another. Then they lied and sold it to the public, like it was the safest plane ever made.

redis_mlc 7y ago
> And at first, they blamed it on mediocre 3rd world country pilots. > Then, the truth finally came out. Their design for the 737 MAX was junk. It was fatally flawed. It’s a flying death trap! Well, both are true. The Indonesian investigators share blame between their pilots, mechanics and Boeing. Insiders expected this. And Boeing forgot they were in the aerospace business.

StreamBright 7y ago

I think the problems from Boeing mark a new era when you cannot rely anymore on a previous good record. The new structure how FAA approves airliners proven to be insufficient, for both the Dreamliner & MCAS with 737. If Boeing continues going down this path than it won't matter how long and how many passengers they shuttled.

rossjudson 7y ago
There's figuring out what went wrong, and then there's figuring out why nobody thought anything was wrong. At least, nobody with the authority to do something about it.