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I had a different idea. In some areas law makers and tech companies would need to write and follow so many vague rules it could be better to have a government a

by 6510 7y ago

I had a different idea. In some areas law makers and tech companies would need to write and follow so many vague rules it could be better to have a government agency that does the work for them. It wouldn't be perfect but it would create a different kind of problem that can be compared to the one we are having right now. Moderation for example could "simply" be part of law enforcement. Having corporations design their own rules/laws on top of the legal system is costly and undesirable. A proper legal formula would have punishments that scale with the offense. Having government manage authentication could rule out banning people across all services without stating a reason. Accidentally having some back ground music in a youtube video wouldn't have cops rip your mailbox out of the ground or cancel your drivers license. It is that absurd to have google do it. Some processes need some type of private data, if the data is stored on government servers access could be managed on a case by case basis. Likewise, data transferred between google services would have to be routed though gov servers where the request can be compared with the goals. Google could provide a set of adverts to be shown next to email but gmail wouldn't provide a source of information to display adds elsewhere.

Andrex 7y ago
"Moderation for example could 'simply' be part of law enforcement." "Having government manage authentication could rule out banning people across all services without stating a reason." These both sound like Very Bad Ideas that could be implemented in short order by the People's Republic of China, building off the existing social credit system, to predictably anti-democratic results. Decoupling authentication from Big Tech is a noble goal, but it should also absolutely be decoupled from Big Gov't as well.
asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
> Moderation for example could "simply" be part of law enforcement. Not in countries with freedom of speech enshrined in the constitution.
- 6510 7y ago
  Oh LOL, I see now that what I said can be taken to mean the opposite of what I had in mind. I think we have good laws for what goes and doesn't go in public. Much more relaxed than the big platforms terms of service. You already get arrested if you publish the "right" kind of video. I'm simply suggesting we should strip away whatever social engineering facebook and google have in mind. The dumb account termination as a punishment for everything is like revoking peoples citizenship by administrative punishment - in a one size fits all approach. Google's tos literally says they can terminate your account without stating a reason. That is much more dystopian than the Chinese social credit system.

by 6510 7y ago

Andrex 7y ago

"Moderation for example could 'simply' be part of law enforcement." "Having government manage authentication could rule out banning people across all services without stating a reason." These both sound like Very Bad Ideas that could be implemented in short order by the People's Republic of China, building off the existing social credit system, to predictably anti-democratic results. Decoupling authentication from Big Tech is a noble goal, but it should also absolutely be decoupled from Big Gov't as well.

asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago

> Moderation for example could "simply" be part of law enforcement. Not in countries with freedom of speech enshrined in the constitution.

6510 7y ago
Oh LOL, I see now that what I said can be taken to mean the opposite of what I had in mind. I think we have good laws for what goes and doesn't go in public. Much more relaxed than the big platforms terms of service. You already get arrested if you publish the "right" kind of video. I'm simply suggesting we should strip away whatever social engineering facebook and google have in mind. The dumb account termination as a punishment for everything is like revoking peoples citizenship by administrative punishment - in a one size fits all approach. Google's tos literally says they can terminate your account without stating a reason. That is much more dystopian than the Chinese social credit system.