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This reminds me of being an employee in Stockholm. You get scolded if you haven't booked thirty days of vacation into the calendar. Someone comes to your desk a

by lukego 7y ago

This reminds me of being an employee in Stockholm. You get scolded if you haven't booked thirty days of vacation into the calendar. Someone comes to your desk and makes you pick the dates. You come back with a lot of energy too :-)

irrational 7y ago
Yeah, but that energy dissipates pretty quickly. I took three weeks off recently. I came back very energized and upbeat. It took maybe 2 days to get back to "normal".
throw0101a 7y ago
> You come back with a lot of energy too :-) "Man Returns To Work After Vacation With Fresh, Reenergized Hatred For Job" * https://local.theonion.com/man-returns-to-work-after-vacation-with-fresh-reenergi-1819574342 https://local.theonion.com/man-returns-to-work-after-vacatio...
johnchristopher 7y ago
Happened to me last week. Had to pick 23 days between now and 13th of April. I picked at random, the `manager` and I both know I'll be working at home anyway.
- gsk22 7y ago
  I honestly do not understand this mentality. You're given 23 paid days off, why would you donate that time back to your employer?
  - ghi5goio3qno4i3 7y ago
    Not that hard to understand. Some people don't or can't have anything other then work in their lives. Some people have home lives that are so terrible that working is a better option. Some people can't afford to do anything with it anyways. And some people just need to work; otherwise they die, either by suicide or just lost motivation to care about themselves. If you still can't understand, then I would urge you not to try. Trust me when I say, it's better not to understand why in this case.
  - sfRattan 7y ago
    So that the employer will see him more favorably than the other employees at the same level when making decisions in which all other things are equal. From the candor of GP's comment, I would venture to guess that both he and the manager are type-A personalities who want to be at work all the time. My dad was and is like that. He progressed much further in his career than he would have otherwise and our family was none-the-worse for it. Not everyone is like that, but I don't see it as incomprehensible (or even a problem). Although I'm not the same as my dad, I've long felt an individualist stubbornness that leads me to a similar conclusions. When I was a kid, we had a birthday party at a bowling alley and the attendants put the bumpers[1] up in our alley and wouldn't take them down. I was so incensed that I instead made a game of trying to whack the bowling ball hard enough against the bumpers to bounce over them. I was elated when I got one all the way into the next alley. My gut reacts to the idea of "mandatory days off" in an intuitively similar way, even though I probably wouldn't be incensed about it the way I was about the bumpers in the bowling alley as a child. I'm probably on the extreme end of a cultural and value difference between Americans and Europeans. [1]: https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/02110106/kid-friendly-bowling-alleys.png https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0211010...
    - johnchristopher 7y ago
      > So that the employer will see him more favorably than the other employees at the same level when making decisions in which all other things are equal. There's a bit of that. The main reason though is that I am way out of touch and unable to separate work/whatever life for a bunch of different reasons. Let's say I am a mess right now and not caring much about losing vacation. > From the candor of GP's comment, I would venture to guess that both he and the manager are type-A personalities who want to be at work all the time. My dad was and is like that. He progressed much further in his career than he would have otherwise and our family was none-the-worse for it. Not everyone is like that, but I don't see it as incomprehensible (or even a problem). Not really, maybe. I am a teamplayer and a people pleaser but I have some type A tendencies (types only tell a part of the story anyway). I have nothing to show for that though (not a top leet coder, not a top lead manager, etc. I am good, reliable but I am not shining). I think if I was more "type A" I would not let such things happen. > [1]: https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0211010.. https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0211010.... How did you do that :D
- rfrey 7y ago
  Will you also donate 12% of your salary to the company?
  - johnchristopher 7y ago
    Well... the company actually owes me money for travel expenses (which are the four digit numbers) that I had to pay upfront.

by lukego 7y ago

irrational 7y ago

Yeah, but that energy dissipates pretty quickly. I took three weeks off recently. I came back very energized and upbeat. It took maybe 2 days to get back to "normal".

throw0101a 7y ago

> You come back with a lot of energy too :-) "Man Returns To Work After Vacation With Fresh, Reenergized Hatred For Job" * https://local.theonion.com/man-returns-to-work-after-vacation-with-fresh-reenergi-1819574342 https://local.theonion.com/man-returns-to-work-after-vacatio...

johnchristopher 7y ago

Happened to me last week. Had to pick 23 days between now and 13th of April. I picked at random, the `manager` and I both know I'll be working at home anyway.

gsk22 7y ago
I honestly do not understand this mentality. You're given 23 paid days off, why would you donate that time back to your employer?
- ghi5goio3qno4i3 7y ago
  Not that hard to understand. Some people don't or can't have anything other then work in their lives. Some people have home lives that are so terrible that working is a better option. Some people can't afford to do anything with it anyways. And some people just need to work; otherwise they die, either by suicide or just lost motivation to care about themselves. If you still can't understand, then I would urge you not to try. Trust me when I say, it's better not to understand why in this case.
- sfRattan 7y ago
  So that the employer will see him more favorably than the other employees at the same level when making decisions in which all other things are equal. From the candor of GP's comment, I would venture to guess that both he and the manager are type-A personalities who want to be at work all the time. My dad was and is like that. He progressed much further in his career than he would have otherwise and our family was none-the-worse for it. Not everyone is like that, but I don't see it as incomprehensible (or even a problem). Although I'm not the same as my dad, I've long felt an individualist stubbornness that leads me to a similar conclusions. When I was a kid, we had a birthday party at a bowling alley and the attendants put the bumpers[1] up in our alley and wouldn't take them down. I was so incensed that I instead made a game of trying to whack the bowling ball hard enough against the bumpers to bounce over them. I was elated when I got one all the way into the next alley. My gut reacts to the idea of "mandatory days off" in an intuitively similar way, even though I probably wouldn't be incensed about it the way I was about the bumpers in the bowling alley as a child. I'm probably on the extreme end of a cultural and value difference between Americans and Europeans. [1]: https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/02110106/kid-friendly-bowling-alleys.png https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0211010...
  - johnchristopher 7y ago
    > So that the employer will see him more favorably than the other employees at the same level when making decisions in which all other things are equal. There's a bit of that. The main reason though is that I am way out of touch and unable to separate work/whatever life for a bunch of different reasons. Let's say I am a mess right now and not caring much about losing vacation. > From the candor of GP's comment, I would venture to guess that both he and the manager are type-A personalities who want to be at work all the time. My dad was and is like that. He progressed much further in his career than he would have otherwise and our family was none-the-worse for it. Not everyone is like that, but I don't see it as incomprehensible (or even a problem). Not really, maybe. I am a teamplayer and a people pleaser but I have some type A tendencies (types only tell a part of the story anyway). I have nothing to show for that though (not a top leet coder, not a top lead manager, etc. I am good, reliable but I am not shining). I think if I was more "type A" I would not let such things happen. > [1]: https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0211010.. https://cdn.mykidlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/0211010.... How did you do that :D
rfrey 7y ago
Will you also donate 12% of your salary to the company?
- johnchristopher 7y ago
  Well... the company actually owes me money for travel expenses (which are the four digit numbers) that I had to pay upfront.