Sometimes when humans try to get a hand-wavy initiative started, all you get is hand waving. My uninformed take on it: if the initiative was more on the level

Sometimes when humans try to get a hand-wavy initiative started, all you get is hand waving. My uninformed take on it: if the initiative was more on the level of "Here's my amazing ship design, prove me wrong" they would have gotten way more involvement. Even if Version 0 was a Jules Verne design...