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Smart devices is Symbian, Meego, WP7. Mobile Phones is S40 (not Symbian). This is the ancient Nokia platform, which is the only part of Nokia that is currently

Smart devices is Symbian, Meego, WP7. Mobile Phones is S40 (not Symbian). This is the ancient Nokia platform, which is the only part of Nokia that is currently competitive in its price bracket. The intention is to kill off Symbian as quickly and painlessly as possible. Good riddance. It was not a realistic smartphone contender to begin with. Finally Nokia stops throwing good money after bad. Only it may be too late. One of Nokia's systemic problems is its uneven software culture. Nokia's diffrentiator was hardware. When competitors surpassed Nokia in software it was fighting a losing battle. From this point of view the move makes much sense. Remove the software that don't perform well: Symbian and Ovi service "platform", developer tools. Keep and streamline the parts that have a chance of success: S40, MeeGo. The transition will be painful and success is far from certain, but the obvious alternatives would be even worse.

rbanffy 16y ago
S40, IIRC, is Symbian. It's related to the S60 that powered lots of Nokia smartphones, mostly the ones that actually work. Keeping to it and ditching the newer versions would be clever.
- tarvaina 16y ago
  You remember incorrectly. See e.g. http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/ http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/ for comparison.
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    It's a marketing barrier, not a technical one. The core is very much the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_40#Operating_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_40#Operating_system
    - tarvaina 16y ago
      Sorry, but your link doesn't support your assertion. It only says that S40 is simpler than S60 and that S60 is based on Symbian. With a bit of googling I found this quote from a Forum Nokia champion: "Series 40 (S40) is not based on Symbian at all, but a Nokia proprietary real-time operating system. Series 40 does not allow any native (C/C++) development (with or without Qt). The primary app development for Series 40 based phones is Java (JME, J2ME, MIDP/CLDC), or Flash Lite." http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?216661-Why-Qt http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?21666... Here's another link: http://eve-c.org/2011/syskwyawan/ http://eve-c.org/2011/syskwyawan/
      - rbanffy 16y ago
        Interesting. The use of the word "variant" on Wikipedia misled me.
- tygorius 16y ago
  Never having seen the code, I can't say for sure that there's no Symbian OS code in the S40 series devices. I can say, however, that there's no Symbian OS access for developers in those devices. The S40 phones are semi-smart -- they allow J2ME applets to run and that's it.

rbanffy 16y ago

S40, IIRC, is Symbian. It's related to the S60 that powered lots of Nokia smartphones, mostly the ones that actually work. Keeping to it and ditching the newer versions would be clever.

tarvaina 16y ago
You remember incorrectly. See e.g. http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/ http://www.forum.nokia.com/Devices/ for comparison.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  It's a marketing barrier, not a technical one. The core is very much the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_40#Operating_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_40#Operating_system
  - tarvaina 16y ago
    Sorry, but your link doesn't support your assertion. It only says that S40 is simpler than S60 and that S60 is based on Symbian. With a bit of googling I found this quote from a Forum Nokia champion: "Series 40 (S40) is not based on Symbian at all, but a Nokia proprietary real-time operating system. Series 40 does not allow any native (C/C++) development (with or without Qt). The primary app development for Series 40 based phones is Java (JME, J2ME, MIDP/CLDC), or Flash Lite." http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?216661-Why-Qt http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?21666... Here's another link: http://eve-c.org/2011/syskwyawan/ http://eve-c.org/2011/syskwyawan/
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      Interesting. The use of the word "variant" on Wikipedia misled me.
tygorius 16y ago
Never having seen the code, I can't say for sure that there's no Symbian OS code in the S40 series devices. I can say, however, that there's no Symbian OS access for developers in those devices. The S40 phones are semi-smart -- they allow J2ME applets to run and that's it.