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A question to Americans, is there nothing a common citizen can do about it? In India, in a similar situation anyone would be able to file a Public Interest Liti

A question to Americans, is there nothing a common citizen can do about it? In India, in a similar situation anyone would be able to file a Public Interest Litigation (PIL) with High Court (highest court at state level) or Supreme Court (highest court at central/federal level). If any of the courts decided to take up the PIL, they could ask any investigative body, including law enforcement or ex-judges, for investigation.

ianai 7y ago
AFAIK, the aggrieved party would be the losing candidate. That candidate is typically a D who announces defeat hours after the vote. They don’t fight these court battles long term in an interest of public unity. Or, worse, don’t have the finances for the court battle. See the vote election lawsuits following the ‘16 vote in the states which flipped that election. That was the 3rd party candidate Jill Stein suing and running out of money.
- jasonlotito 7y ago
  Couldn't it also be a voter? I know that if my vote wasn't counted, or an election I voted in was hacked, it would be like me losing my right to vote. It removes my right to vote and have that vote count.
  - ianai 7y ago
    Should be, but for some reason that escapes me, I remember that not being the case.
ancarda 7y ago
Try to make electronic voting illegal? Not sure how though - call your representative, raise awareness, that sort of thing
- ianai 7y ago
  The US needs to do at least that.
- kingkawn 7y ago
  Phone calls and visits to your representatives on all levels are taken very seriously by their offices
stanferder 7y ago
That's a good question, and I'm ashamed to say I don't know whether it's possible or not. "Grassroots organizing", or bottom-up pressure on the government, is a thing in the US, but I don't know the mechanisms by which it acts, beyond getting people to sign petitions once in a while. I suspect most other people in the US don't know the mechanisms either.
btilly 7y ago
The answer is probably not. I am aware of have been a number of attempts at lawsuits against such state rules over a period of decades, and they have generally not gone very far. You can hold out hope that there will some day be a ruling that changes this. But I am dubious. To quote my brother on the USA vs China, "China is a nation of crooks ruled by honest men, while the USA is a nation of honest men ruled by crooks. It remains to be seen which is worse." This is one of the examples that I would cite for the US version of that.

ianai 7y ago

AFAIK, the aggrieved party would be the losing candidate. That candidate is typically a D who announces defeat hours after the vote. They don’t fight these court battles long term in an interest of public unity. Or, worse, don’t have the finances for the court battle. See the vote election lawsuits following the ‘16 vote in the states which flipped that election. That was the 3rd party candidate Jill Stein suing and running out of money.

jasonlotito 7y ago
Couldn't it also be a voter? I know that if my vote wasn't counted, or an election I voted in was hacked, it would be like me losing my right to vote. It removes my right to vote and have that vote count.
- ianai 7y ago
  Should be, but for some reason that escapes me, I remember that not being the case.

ancarda 7y ago

Try to make electronic voting illegal? Not sure how though - call your representative, raise awareness, that sort of thing

ianai 7y ago
The US needs to do at least that.
kingkawn 7y ago
Phone calls and visits to your representatives on all levels are taken very seriously by their offices

stanferder 7y ago

That's a good question, and I'm ashamed to say I don't know whether it's possible or not. "Grassroots organizing", or bottom-up pressure on the government, is a thing in the US, but I don't know the mechanisms by which it acts, beyond getting people to sign petitions once in a while. I suspect most other people in the US don't know the mechanisms either.

btilly 7y ago

The answer is probably not. I am aware of have been a number of attempts at lawsuits against such state rules over a period of decades, and they have generally not gone very far. You can hold out hope that there will some day be a ruling that changes this. But I am dubious. To quote my brother on the USA vs China, "China is a nation of crooks ruled by honest men, while the USA is a nation of honest men ruled by crooks. It remains to be seen which is worse." This is one of the examples that I would cite for the US version of that.