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> Why should the FDA use up government resources to regulate vaping? Precisely because people are putting adulterants in black market cartridges. > however mu

> Why should the FDA use up government resources to regulate vaping? Precisely because people are putting adulterants in black market cartridges. > however much joy everybody gets from vaping and blowing smoke in the future, it isn’t ever going to be worth 50 dead people. However much joy everybody gets from swimming in a pool, it isn't ever going to be worth 3,536 dead people. If you're advocating for banning vaping, you're advocating for the creation of a black market. Prohibition didn't work for alcohol, it's not working for drugs, and it won't work for vaping.

Gatsky 7y ago
That’s correct, we should ban the ability to profit from selling harmful products. The swimming pool analogy is completely off base. You are supposing that prohibition won’t work. But it is the easiest and cheapest approach. All the problems with prohibition apply equally to regulation, but with much greater complexity and cost. Eg there will still be a black market for cheap unregulated vape juice, just like there is for cigarettes. So just put a moratorium on sale for 5 years, and if the pros outweigh the cons, ban it permanently. If not then come up with some other solution, regulation, whatever.
- thebean11 7y ago
  > there will still be a black market for cheap unregulated vape juice, just like there is for cigarettes Is there a sizable black mark for unregulated cigarettes? My guess would be that the black market for vapes has already surpassed it multiple times.
- grawprog 7y ago
  >That’s correct, we should ban the ability to profit from selling harmful products. Can't tell of this is actually serious or not. There are so many products that can cause harm you might as well just make a whitelist of allowed products at that point. >You are supposing that prohibition won’t work. But it is the easiest and cheapest approach. Yet it's never worked and always just created dangerous unregulated black markets that causes more deaths and health issues than regulation and as far as cheapest, I think you're forgetting the cost of enforcement of prohibition.

Gatsky 7y ago

That’s correct, we should ban the ability to profit from selling harmful products. The swimming pool analogy is completely off base. You are supposing that prohibition won’t work. But it is the easiest and cheapest approach. All the problems with prohibition apply equally to regulation, but with much greater complexity and cost. Eg there will still be a black market for cheap unregulated vape juice, just like there is for cigarettes. So just put a moratorium on sale for 5 years, and if the pros outweigh the cons, ban it permanently. If not then come up with some other solution, regulation, whatever.

thebean11 7y ago
> there will still be a black market for cheap unregulated vape juice, just like there is for cigarettes Is there a sizable black mark for unregulated cigarettes? My guess would be that the black market for vapes has already surpassed it multiple times.
grawprog 7y ago
>That’s correct, we should ban the ability to profit from selling harmful products. Can't tell of this is actually serious or not. There are so many products that can cause harm you might as well just make a whitelist of allowed products at that point. >You are supposing that prohibition won’t work. But it is the easiest and cheapest approach. Yet it's never worked and always just created dangerous unregulated black markets that causes more deaths and health issues than regulation and as far as cheapest, I think you're forgetting the cost of enforcement of prohibition.