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Definitely. I don't understand how Mozilla doesn't understand that extensions, particularly content blocking (and specifically Ublock Origin) are definitional o

Definitely. I don't understand how Mozilla doesn't understand that extensions, particularly content blocking (and specifically Ublock Origin) are definitional of what Firefox is and should be.

ekianjo 7y ago
But they love testing! And users! That is all what matters I guess?
- Vinnl 7y ago
  As a user who's tested Firefox Preview and loved extension support in Firefox for Android: it's been good enough for me to have somewhat naturally transitioned to using it as my main browser. The built-in tracking protection blocks practically everything that I used uBlock Origin for (though I'd still appreciate the real thing coming), I haven't really experienced bugs, and it's really quite snappy. There's certainly still a number of features missing (I'm personally eagerly awaiting the return of the home screen), but it's certainly not as dire as some here make it sound, and it's been progressing pretty rapidly.
Koffiepoeder 7y ago
No this is definitely not a regression. Firefox launched a new app called "Firefox Preview Nightly", so as of right now both Nightly and Preview Nightly exist side by side; regular nightly users are not impacted at this point in time.
- severine 7y ago
  You are technically correct, but from a more general point of view I'd consider it a regression. A Mozilla regression, if you will.
- lol768 7y ago
  I don't understand why you've brought up what the current state of affairs is, the article says: > For current Nightly users, it’ll feel like a big exciting upgrade of their browsing experience once they update the app Which sounds to me like Fennec is going away and the update will replace it with Fenix. >as of right now both Nightly and Preview Nightly exist side by side; regular nightly users are not impacted at this point in time Is anyone disputing this? What will happen when the "new experience" the article talks about is launched?
  - dutchCourage 7y ago
    > What will happen when the "new experience" the article talks about is launched? Can't people use the stable version then? I fail to see the issue here.
    - Macha 7y ago
      The issue is that their roadmap has the stable version being replaced automatically in early 2020 with one that doesn't support extensions (full support of which is late 2020), unless you pause updates on your mobile device and had an unsecured browser. So that means for at least most of 2020, I won't have the option for the browser experience I like and will have to go use brave mobile or something. As someone who wants to avoid a Chromium hegemony, this is pretty disappointing. I would like to support Mozilla on mobile, but they'll leave me no options to do so.
- squiggleblaz 7y ago
  That's surely not clear from the blog post. I just read it again and I still can't find it; indeed, the only links to apps are links to the existing Firefox Preview (not even to Firefox Nightly, which is what the article seems to be talking about). Searching the store turns up both "Firefox Preview Nightly for Developers" and "Firefox Nightly for Developers" which is consistent with your claim but is not necessary supportive of it. The title refers to an app apparently called "Firefox for Android Nightly" but no such app exists that I can find in the store. It is possible this is one of the worst public announcements ever. A link to the product they're announcing to would have made a significant difference.

Definitely. I don't understand how Mozilla doesn't understand that extensions, particularly content blocking (and specifically Ublock Origin) are definitional of what Firefox is and should be.

ekianjo 7y ago

But they love testing! And users! That is all what matters I guess?

Vinnl 7y ago
As a user who's tested Firefox Preview and loved extension support in Firefox for Android: it's been good enough for me to have somewhat naturally transitioned to using it as my main browser. The built-in tracking protection blocks practically everything that I used uBlock Origin for (though I'd still appreciate the real thing coming), I haven't really experienced bugs, and it's really quite snappy. There's certainly still a number of features missing (I'm personally eagerly awaiting the return of the home screen), but it's certainly not as dire as some here make it sound, and it's been progressing pretty rapidly.

Koffiepoeder 7y ago

No this is definitely not a regression. Firefox launched a new app called "Firefox Preview Nightly", so as of right now both Nightly and Preview Nightly exist side by side; regular nightly users are not impacted at this point in time.

severine 7y ago
You are technically correct, but from a more general point of view I'd consider it a regression. A Mozilla regression, if you will.
lol768 7y ago
I don't understand why you've brought up what the current state of affairs is, the article says: > For current Nightly users, it’ll feel like a big exciting upgrade of their browsing experience once they update the app Which sounds to me like Fennec is going away and the update will replace it with Fenix. >as of right now both Nightly and Preview Nightly exist side by side; regular nightly users are not impacted at this point in time Is anyone disputing this? What will happen when the "new experience" the article talks about is launched?
- dutchCourage 7y ago
  > What will happen when the "new experience" the article talks about is launched? Can't people use the stable version then? I fail to see the issue here.
  - Macha 7y ago
    The issue is that their roadmap has the stable version being replaced automatically in early 2020 with one that doesn't support extensions (full support of which is late 2020), unless you pause updates on your mobile device and had an unsecured browser. So that means for at least most of 2020, I won't have the option for the browser experience I like and will have to go use brave mobile or something. As someone who wants to avoid a Chromium hegemony, this is pretty disappointing. I would like to support Mozilla on mobile, but they'll leave me no options to do so.
squiggleblaz 7y ago
That's surely not clear from the blog post. I just read it again and I still can't find it; indeed, the only links to apps are links to the existing Firefox Preview (not even to Firefox Nightly, which is what the article seems to be talking about). Searching the store turns up both "Firefox Preview Nightly for Developers" and "Firefox Nightly for Developers" which is consistent with your claim but is not necessary supportive of it. The title refers to an app apparently called "Firefox for Android Nightly" but no such app exists that I can find in the store. It is possible this is one of the worst public announcements ever. A link to the product they're announcing to would have made a significant difference.