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It's just from one end of the LVCC to the other.

by mzkply 7y ago

jandrese 7y ago
That sounds silly until you've walked from one end of the LVCC to the other.
- ghaff 7y ago
  The expansion of the LVCC made me vaguely curious about what types of shows use it given that all the IT shows I'm familiar with use the Venetian/Sands or, if they're a bit smaller, The Mandalay Bay. I haven't been there since Comdex days. It looks as if it's things like Kitchen and Bath Builders, World of Concrete, etc. So maybe things that are more oriented towards a mega show floor and less to speaking rooms.
  - nrp 7y ago
    CES is the key one. It occupies all of LVCC and Sands, with spillover and unofficial meeting rooms taking up basically all of the strip. It's not clear what CES is going to do with another full hall though. The show is already kind of a mish-mash of industries.
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    - ghaff 7y ago
      I forgot about CES because I've never been to that one. It still sort of amazes me that CES hasn't collapsed under its own weight. Comdex did. CeBIT finally did. I thought it was finally going to happen about a decade ago when Microsoft pulled out; that's the usual "emperor has no clothes" moment. But it kept on going.
  - reaperducer 7y ago
    what types of shows use it given that all the IT shows I'm familiar with use the Venetian/Sands Here's the list of big conventions this year: CES: 175,000 people Automotive Aftermarket Show: 160,000 ConExpo-Con/Agg: 129,000 National Association of Broadcasters: 103,000 MAGIC (fashion/makeup, I believe): 78,0000 International Builders Show: 68,000 Shooting, Hunting & Outdoor Trade Show: 61,000 World of Concrete: 60,000 National Mining Association: 50,000 Las Vegas Market, Winter: 50,000 Las Vegas Market, Summer: 50,000 ASD Market Week Winter: 46,000 Mr. Olympia: 45,000 ASD Market Week Summer: 44,000 Nightclub and Bar Show: 39,000 Audiovisual and Integrated Experience: 38,000 RECon: 37,000 Those are just the top attendees. There are many dozens more. Of those I listed, only the Automotive Aftermarket show is also at the Sands. The expansion isn't to handle larger shows, it's to handle more large shows simultaneously. Also not listed is the NFR Rodeo which is big enough to be held at the UNLV stadium, plus the expo center, plus over a dozen hotels. I think that one is around 103,000 people.
    - downerending 7y ago
      Did NAB once. Miserable. Barely any place to sit on the floor, let alone benches. And the roaches--ugh.
acchow 7y ago
"is expected to connect the Las Vegas Convention Center to popular Las Vegas hot spots. Downtown Las Vegas, the Strip, and McCarran International Airport will all be destination options for riders"
- ghaff 7y ago
  That statement in the article makes no sense in the context of other stated facts in the article. And seems to be simply untrue. [1] It's a contract with the Las Vegas Convention Center. "LVCC Loop will connect the LVCC New Exhibit Hall with the existing campus (North/Central/South Halls). Three stations locations (see map below) will offer convenient access between key LVCC destinations and nearby transportation connections." Getting around Vegas in general is a pain. What transportation systems there are aren't integrated. And individual casinos/conference centers are so sprawling that, as this project shows, you practically (or do) need transit systems just to get around a single property. ADDED: The Boring Company page shows "conceptual future expansion" to a ton of other locations. Those other locations include Los Angeles so I'll leave it to readers to judge how realistic those are. [1] https://www.boringcompany.com/lvcc https://www.boringcompany.com/lvcc
  - retrovm 7y ago
    "That statement in the article makes no sense in the context of other stated facts in the article." You read some unsupported claims on a fan service blog for a pump-and-dump stock scam? I, for one, am completely shocked.
  - reaperducer 7y ago
    I think they are stretching because you'll be able to transfer to the monorail.

It's just from one end of the LVCC to the other.

by mzkply 7y ago

It's just from one end of the LVCC to the other.

jandrese 7y ago

That sounds silly until you've walked from one end of the LVCC to the other.

ghaff 7y ago
The expansion of the LVCC made me vaguely curious about what types of shows use it given that all the IT shows I'm familiar with use the Venetian/Sands or, if they're a bit smaller, The Mandalay Bay. I haven't been there since Comdex days. It looks as if it's things like Kitchen and Bath Builders, World of Concrete, etc. So maybe things that are more oriented towards a mega show floor and less to speaking rooms.
- nrp 7y ago
  CES is the key one. It occupies all of LVCC and Sands, with spillover and unofficial meeting rooms taking up basically all of the strip. It's not clear what CES is going to do with another full hall though. The show is already kind of a mish-mash of industries.
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  - ghaff 7y ago
    I forgot about CES because I've never been to that one. It still sort of amazes me that CES hasn't collapsed under its own weight. Comdex did. CeBIT finally did. I thought it was finally going to happen about a decade ago when Microsoft pulled out; that's the usual "emperor has no clothes" moment. But it kept on going.
- reaperducer 7y ago
  what types of shows use it given that all the IT shows I'm familiar with use the Venetian/Sands Here's the list of big conventions this year: CES: 175,000 people Automotive Aftermarket Show: 160,000 ConExpo-Con/Agg: 129,000 National Association of Broadcasters: 103,000 MAGIC (fashion/makeup, I believe): 78,0000 International Builders Show: 68,000 Shooting, Hunting & Outdoor Trade Show: 61,000 World of Concrete: 60,000 National Mining Association: 50,000 Las Vegas Market, Winter: 50,000 Las Vegas Market, Summer: 50,000 ASD Market Week Winter: 46,000 Mr. Olympia: 45,000 ASD Market Week Summer: 44,000 Nightclub and Bar Show: 39,000 Audiovisual and Integrated Experience: 38,000 RECon: 37,000 Those are just the top attendees. There are many dozens more. Of those I listed, only the Automotive Aftermarket show is also at the Sands. The expansion isn't to handle larger shows, it's to handle more large shows simultaneously. Also not listed is the NFR Rodeo which is big enough to be held at the UNLV stadium, plus the expo center, plus over a dozen hotels. I think that one is around 103,000 people.
  - downerending 7y ago
    Did NAB once. Miserable. Barely any place to sit on the floor, let alone benches. And the roaches--ugh.

acchow 7y ago

"is expected to connect the Las Vegas Convention Center to popular Las Vegas hot spots. Downtown Las Vegas, the Strip, and McCarran International Airport will all be destination options for riders"

ghaff 7y ago
That statement in the article makes no sense in the context of other stated facts in the article. And seems to be simply untrue. [1] It's a contract with the Las Vegas Convention Center. "LVCC Loop will connect the LVCC New Exhibit Hall with the existing campus (North/Central/South Halls). Three stations locations (see map below) will offer convenient access between key LVCC destinations and nearby transportation connections." Getting around Vegas in general is a pain. What transportation systems there are aren't integrated. And individual casinos/conference centers are so sprawling that, as this project shows, you practically (or do) need transit systems just to get around a single property. ADDED: The Boring Company page shows "conceptual future expansion" to a ton of other locations. Those other locations include Los Angeles so I'll leave it to readers to judge how realistic those are. [1] https://www.boringcompany.com/lvcc https://www.boringcompany.com/lvcc
- retrovm 7y ago
  "That statement in the article makes no sense in the context of other stated facts in the article." You read some unsupported claims on a fan service blog for a pump-and-dump stock scam? I, for one, am completely shocked.
- reaperducer 7y ago
  I think they are stretching because you'll be able to transfer to the monorail.