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Flagged per the guidelines: if it's on TV, it doesn't belong here :-)

by alain94040 16y ago

CWuestefeld 16y ago
The OP is Al Jazeera. That means it's not on American TV, at least.
- noarchy 16y ago
  They also broadcast a very useful live stream. It's on the Tubes, and it is relevant.
- zeteo 16y ago
  >>The OP is Al Jazeera. That means it's not on American TV, at least. Really? Because it's on Al Jazeera it means it's not on top of CNN, MSNBC and Fox News right now? A prime example of how logic flies out (even in the smallest details) when discussing politics.
ugh 16y ago
This is what the guidelines actually say: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."
- tomh- 16y ago
  This event is covered on TV, moreover it is covered on other sites which are more mainstream such as reddit, digg etc. I come here to read tech and startup news, this is not something I want to read about on HN. It is also a shame that users who try to question the relevancy of HN submissions get downvoted. Even though it has more than 100 upvotes it is still not relevant to what this site is about. Unless the goal is to become reddit 2.0 with lots of mainstream articles simply because a large amounts of users think it is interesting, I think this kind of articles are best enjoyed elsewhere on the web. I flagged this story, even though I find it interesting.
  - krschultz 16y ago
    I think answering the "What system have you hacked?" question on the next Y Combinator application with "Taking down my country's dictatorship" would be a pretty kick ass answer. I think we can live with 1 spot on the front page for a few hours of one day being used up by the story of a 30 year old dictatorship being overthrown by its people. Especially considering there were about 8 stories this morning about the Nokia/Microsoft partnership of which 3 were basically dups of a press release.
    - zeteo 16y ago
      Political activity != hacking. Nokia and Microsoft are tech companies.
      - jeromec 16y ago
        I would point out technology and the Internet played an important if not vital role in the events of Egypt and Tunisia.
        zeteo 16y ago
        Technology and the Internet play a vital role in pretty much everything these days. What will HN cover next - a Tea Party rally, if it was announced on Twitter?
        mousa 16y ago
        http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/02/11/exp.ghonim.facebook.thanks.cnn?hpt=T1 http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/02/11/exp.gho... this might be more down your alley. A Google marketing exec doing some great marketing... for Facebook.
        jeromec 16y ago
        Come on now. Don't be so facetious. What chance do you honestly think a Tea Party rally has of maintaining a top spot on the HN front page? We are talking about historic events here. (and, no, me checking my email this morning is not also a "historic event" ;)
- zeteo 16y ago
  The general story has nothing to do with hacking or startups, it's not intellectually interesting, and is currently being covered in the smallest detail and speculation on countless TV channels, not to mention Reddit and Digg. If you have some intellectually interesting technical details/speculation about what this might mean for e.g. Internet and the business environment in Egypt, go ahead and post that. But the general story was off-topic yesterday, and still is today.
koenigdavidmj 16y ago
Enough users upvoted it to get it in spot #1 on the front page. The userbase thus finds it relevant to them.
- derleth 16y ago
  > Enough users upvoted it to get it in spot #1 on the front page. Well, now I'm curious to see if pg manually shoves it off again, like he did with the earlier Very Popular Egypt Submission.
  - ugh 16y ago
    That could have been a result of flagging. Flagging will push a submission down.
- zeteo 16y ago
  No, it probably means the userbase has grown too much and HN needs a bit more policing in order to stay on topic.
  - rick_2047 16y ago
    From HN guidlines If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.) Your account is 178days old.
    - zeteo 16y ago
      That's not what I said.
- michaelchisari 16y ago
  Not to mention that I come here specifically to hear HN's views on the situation.

Flagged per the guidelines: if it's on TV, it doesn't belong here :-)

CWuestefeld 16y ago

The OP is Al Jazeera. That means it's not on American TV, at least.

noarchy 16y ago
They also broadcast a very useful live stream. It's on the Tubes, and it is relevant.
zeteo 16y ago
>>The OP is Al Jazeera. That means it's not on American TV, at least. Really? Because it's on Al Jazeera it means it's not on top of CNN, MSNBC and Fox News right now? A prime example of how logic flies out (even in the smallest details) when discussing politics.

ugh 16y ago

This is what the guidelines actually say: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic."

tomh- 16y ago
This event is covered on TV, moreover it is covered on other sites which are more mainstream such as reddit, digg etc. I come here to read tech and startup news, this is not something I want to read about on HN. It is also a shame that users who try to question the relevancy of HN submissions get downvoted. Even though it has more than 100 upvotes it is still not relevant to what this site is about. Unless the goal is to become reddit 2.0 with lots of mainstream articles simply because a large amounts of users think it is interesting, I think this kind of articles are best enjoyed elsewhere on the web. I flagged this story, even though I find it interesting.
- krschultz 16y ago
  I think answering the "What system have you hacked?" question on the next Y Combinator application with "Taking down my country's dictatorship" would be a pretty kick ass answer. I think we can live with 1 spot on the front page for a few hours of one day being used up by the story of a 30 year old dictatorship being overthrown by its people. Especially considering there were about 8 stories this morning about the Nokia/Microsoft partnership of which 3 were basically dups of a press release.
  - zeteo 16y ago
    Political activity != hacking. Nokia and Microsoft are tech companies.
    - jeromec 16y ago
      I would point out technology and the Internet played an important if not vital role in the events of Egypt and Tunisia.
      - zeteo 16y ago
        Technology and the Internet play a vital role in pretty much everything these days. What will HN cover next - a Tea Party rally, if it was announced on Twitter?
        mousa 16y ago
        http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/02/11/exp.ghonim.facebook.thanks.cnn?hpt=T1 http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/02/11/exp.gho... this might be more down your alley. A Google marketing exec doing some great marketing... for Facebook.
        jeromec 16y ago
        Come on now. Don't be so facetious. What chance do you honestly think a Tea Party rally has of maintaining a top spot on the HN front page? We are talking about historic events here. (and, no, me checking my email this morning is not also a "historic event" ;)
zeteo 16y ago
The general story has nothing to do with hacking or startups, it's not intellectually interesting, and is currently being covered in the smallest detail and speculation on countless TV channels, not to mention Reddit and Digg. If you have some intellectually interesting technical details/speculation about what this might mean for e.g. Internet and the business environment in Egypt, go ahead and post that. But the general story was off-topic yesterday, and still is today.

koenigdavidmj 16y ago

Enough users upvoted it to get it in spot #1 on the front page. The userbase thus finds it relevant to them.

derleth 16y ago
> Enough users upvoted it to get it in spot #1 on the front page. Well, now I'm curious to see if pg manually shoves it off again, like he did with the earlier Very Popular Egypt Submission.
- ugh 16y ago
  That could have been a result of flagging. Flagging will push a submission down.
zeteo 16y ago
No, it probably means the userbase has grown too much and HN needs a bit more policing in order to stay on topic.
- rick_2047 16y ago
  From HN guidlines If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.) Your account is 178days old.
  - zeteo 16y ago
    That's not what I said.
michaelchisari 16y ago
Not to mention that I come here specifically to hear HN's views on the situation.