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I find it impossible to believe that an ERP implementation can ever "go smoothly". At best, even if the system does what it does perfectly, it's still a classi
by crispyambulance 7y ago
I find it impossible to believe that an ERP implementation can ever "go smoothly".
At best, even if the system does what it does perfectly, it's still a classic "diffusion of innovation" (1) problem where you have multiple stakeholders with wildly varying levels of acceptance. This is always challenging. As those of you who make a living at this stuff recommend, it's better to go 100% with the ERP's way and not customize. Well, that can be extremely difficult or impossible in an environment filled with stubborn beancounter/battle-axe personalities.
Most importantly, however, the people who make the purchasing and sign-off decisions ARE NOT the ones who use the thing. There are going to be problems and those problems will not usually bubble back up to the consultant/vendor. People will just have their noses pushed to the grindstone until the job gets done-- never mind the tedium, never mind the countless little mistakes. New people don't get trained, they just get put in front of the the thing to hunt and peck through it, sometimes with the assistance of a surly veteran of the system, sometimes with no one to help them. There are thousands upon thousands of people sitting in cubicles right now using Oracle EBS with it's horrible grey java applet UI and ridiculous inscrutable query functionality. They've been sitting there suffering it since the 90's. Who listens to their screams? Not Oracle, not exec that bought the thing! Or maybe they're silent and they've resigned themselves to their fate?
(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations
- wayoutthere 7y agoTotally agree! My clients are all ripping that crap out because nobody uses them correctly anyway. Most of the data in those systems is so error-ridden they're almost dangerous to use. Newer cloud-based systems offer a much more intuitive UI, which ultimately reduces bad data. Oracle and SAP are basically bad words at this point: you don't say them if you want to get hired.
- jimnotgym 7y agoThis is not necessarily true. I find accounts people who have grown up with these systems find Netsuite (a cloud system) slow, cumbersome and unintuitive. Fast repetitive data entry always seems faster in desktop clients. We are talking about professional full- time users, the initial easier learning curve soon loses its advantage once you have learnt the keystrokes. As for data integrity, I worked in very large SAP implementations without data integrity issues despite thousands of users. I have worked with cloud systems that are full of rubbish.
- gav 7y ago> I find it impossible to believe that an ERP implementation can ever "go smoothly". ERP implementations are like kitchen remodels. Even when they go mostly right, you hate the people doing the work because they've messed up the thing that's at the center of your home, made you eat take-out for weeks, and dust has gone everywhere.
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