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I think a big part of it is that corporate HR types are trying to turn people into interchangeable cogs in the machine. But this ignores the richness of our exp

I think a big part of it is that corporate HR types are trying to turn people into interchangeable cogs in the machine. But this ignores the richness of our experience -- even if the color model were both static and true, I'm willing to guess that the expression of those characteristics would vary widely from person to person. Better to just get to know people individually and talk to them about their desires, capabilities and needs. But I guess that takes too much time in the corporate world, so we classify people by color (and I suspect it also sells a lot of books).

linuxftw 7y ago
The problem is HR types are absolute conformist authoritarians. They don't have any critical thinking skills whatsoever, otherwise they wouldn't be in that field. It's the exact kind of thing I expect colleges and universities to push out. People that can only regurgitate information and then get indignant if you as much as question it's validity. Brainwashing really works, and people often pay for the privilege.
- wayoutthere 7y ago
  I completely agree with you. HR seems to aggregate all the people that you wouldn't allow anywhere near the actual business of the company.
  - LeoTinnitus 7y ago
    HR's primary existence is prevent lawsuits between the company and the employees.
    - wayoutthere 7y ago
      I understand that, but in my experience HR is more often than not the cause of most of those lawsuits.
watwut 7y ago
> Better to just get to know people individually and talk to them about their desires, capabilities and needs. That does not scale. You cant do that reasonably with nuance with too many people. Moreover, someone who is on completely different position will never understand fully what programmer will talk about when talking about desires, capabilities and needs. This sort of thing needs to be discussed with more technical leader/manager. And vice versa, programmers have no idea about what hr people actually need.
- erichocean 7y ago
  > That does not scale. Maybe the problem is that we require businesses to scale in an anti-human way?

linuxftw 7y ago

The problem is HR types are absolute conformist authoritarians. They don't have any critical thinking skills whatsoever, otherwise they wouldn't be in that field. It's the exact kind of thing I expect colleges and universities to push out. People that can only regurgitate information and then get indignant if you as much as question it's validity. Brainwashing really works, and people often pay for the privilege.

wayoutthere 7y ago
I completely agree with you. HR seems to aggregate all the people that you wouldn't allow anywhere near the actual business of the company.
- LeoTinnitus 7y ago
  HR's primary existence is prevent lawsuits between the company and the employees.
  - wayoutthere 7y ago
    I understand that, but in my experience HR is more often than not the cause of most of those lawsuits.

watwut 7y ago

> Better to just get to know people individually and talk to them about their desires, capabilities and needs. That does not scale. You cant do that reasonably with nuance with too many people. Moreover, someone who is on completely different position will never understand fully what programmer will talk about when talking about desires, capabilities and needs. This sort of thing needs to be discussed with more technical leader/manager. And vice versa, programmers have no idea about what hr people actually need.

erichocean 7y ago
> That does not scale. Maybe the problem is that we require businesses to scale in an anti-human way?